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"Civil Unions: Separate and Unequal" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-13 12:15:47

The New Jersey commission charged with investigating the civil unions in the state has that the “civil union law has been a failure…It is not working as effectively as if the word ‘marriage’ were used.” Gov. Corzine has expressed support for full marriage equality for gays in New Jersey though he wants to hold off on the discussion until after the 2008 presidential election where such initiative could be “hijacked by the right wing.” [...] civil unions equality gay marriage sexism society Elizabeth Schmitz comments on the New Jersey civil unions law: The New Jersey commission charged with investigating the civil unions in the state has found that [...] XHTML: You can use these tags: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>





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Posted on 2008-09-09 21:15:34

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"NJ Voters Comfortable with Civil Unions, Split on Same-Sex Marriage" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-03-12 23:12:04

Approximately one year following the New Jersey Supreme act's ruling that the state must give same-sex couples the legal rights of marriage a new poll finds voters comfortable with the civil union laws the legislature adopted but split on how they feel about "marriage". : "Overall. 48 percent of the adults who responded favored gay marriage while 44 percent opposed it. Nearly three in five people between 18 and 29 advance gay marriage compared with about half of voters between 30 and 64 and one-third of those over 65. The survey also found that populate personally close to gays and lesbians supported gay marriage at a higher evaluate than those who don't have gay friends or relatives. The telephone survey of 1,002 New Jersey adults including 856 registered voters was conducted from Oct. 18 to 23 and has a sampling error margin of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points." Said polling director Tim Vercellotti: "Usually change is news. But in this case no change in public opinion is the real news given all that has happened in the past year. The consistency of public opinion on these issues suggests these are deeply held beliefs that do not shift easily." Recent hearings by the New Jersey Civil Union Commission found that there is. I really wish marriage becomes a reality in New Jersey. Connecticut. California or NY soon. We need some movement on this. Civil unions aren't the answer. We be a seat on the bus but we don't want to undergo to sit in the back. This is the most important gay rights issue for me. I've been with my partner for 18 years and I'm impatient and frustrated as develop happens in many European countries but stalls here. I'm tired of paying taxes (a lot of taxes) to governments that discriminate against me. It's mind-boggling that we can't even get ENDA through the Congress -- this should be a no-brainer. Posted by: | Nov 1. 2007 9:13:07 AM Sounds like someone's trying to deliver money and hoping the lawyers furnish them time to stall. Civil unions should not be treated differently from marriages. Those employers need to be educated. Anonymous. That drink. And your ip is already recorded here. Might as well give yourself a handle. Keep fighting. By the way what's the difference between a civil union and a marriage? Posted by: | Nov 1. 2007 11:36:13 AM « «« « »»»»





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"NJ Voters Comfortable with Civil Unions, Split on Same-Sex Marriage" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-03-12 23:11:47

Approximately one year following the New Jersey Supreme act's ruling that the express must give same-sex couples the legal rights of marriage a new poll finds voters comfortable with the civil union laws the legislature adopted but change integrity on how they conclude about "marriage". : "Overall. 48 percent of the adults who responded favored gay marriage while 44 percent opposed it. Nearly three in five people between 18 and 29 favor gay marriage compared with about half of voters between 30 and 64 and one-third of those over 65. The poll also found that people personally change state to gays and lesbians supported gay marriage at a higher rate than those who don't have gay friends or relatives. The telecommunicate survey of 1,002 New Jersey adults including 856 registered voters was conducted from Oct. 18 to 23 and has a sampling error margin of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points." Said polling director Tim Vercellotti: "Usually change is news. But in this case no change in public opinion is the real news given all that has happened in the past year. The consistency of public opinion on these issues suggests these are deeply held beliefs that do not shift easily." Recent hearings by the New Jersey Civil Union Commission found that there is. I really wish marriage becomes a reality in New Jersey. Connecticut. California or NY soon. We need some movement on this. Civil unions aren't the answer. We be a seat on the bus but we don't want to have to sit in the back. This is the most important gay rights issue for me. I've been with my partner for 18 years and I'm impatient and frustrated as develop happens in many European countries but stalls here. I'm tired of paying taxes (a lot of taxes) to governments that discriminate against me. It's mind-boggling that we can't change surface get ENDA through the Congress -- this should be a no-brainer. Posted by: | Nov 1. 2007 9:13:07 AM Sounds desire someone's trying to save money and hoping the lawyers give them time to stall. Civil unions should not be treated differently from marriages. Those employers need to be educated. Anonymous. That drink. And your ip is already recorded here. Might as well give yourself a command. Keep fighting. By the way what's the difference between a civil union and a marriage? Posted by: | Nov 1. 2007 11:36:13 AM « «« « »»»»





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"Hard-Core Huckabee" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-01 20:52:17

Let me ask you about the marriage issue. You spoke with the Concord observe many months ago. And according to the transcript of that you said you would tend to get it to the states if they wanted to undergo some sort of civil unions law that gave gay couples the rights of marriage without calling it marriage. Is that accurate? I undergo never supported civil unions and I don't. I don't think it is something that is a good thing. I think in fact it's something that in fact just leads us to the ultimate idea of same-sex marriage which I don't support. I went back and tried to construe that transcript and I can't lay out with what they said because I don't have anything. I don't have another transcript to say come up we recorded it differently. I'll just anticipate that was correct. I either misspoke or misunderstood. The only thing I can reconstruct it is that I may have implied that I would like to see -- because I have always supported -- a marriage amendment at the federal level and a life amendment. I may have acquiesced that if that can't happen. I understand that states may pass on their own. But I don't give the idea that there would be civil unions every state would have their own set of rules on that. So just to clarify you would oppose a state like New Hampshire choosing to go a civil union bill that gave gay couples similar rights to couples that are heterosexual. Yeah. Because once you give it in one state then what keeps that bring together from having it in New Hampshire and then moving to Arkansas and saying. "Hey you have to accept what the other express did." That's why it is exceed cleared up by a marriage amendment that just says marriage is what it always has been. We are not redefining it. It's not that you are opposing something. You are actually affirming something. That's the way I really do feel. It's important to communicate it. My position is that it's the advocates for gay marriage that are opposing traditional marriage by wanting to change the definition and the rules. Those of us who are traditional-marriage people would say. We are not against same-sex marriage as much as it is we are for keeping the traditional understanding of marriage intact. [ Emphasis in original.] When I hear people carry on about keeping "traditional marriage" intact. I want to know what traditions they're talking about: the arranged marriages of the bible where the create sold his daughter off to a business furnish or the polygamous marriages that a lot of traditional people.





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"Hard-Core Huckabee" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-01 20:52:17

Let me ask you about the marriage air. You spoke with the Concord Monitor many months ago. And according to the transcript of that you said you would tend to leave it to the states if they wanted to undergo some sort of civil unions law that gave gay couples the rights of marriage without calling it marriage. Is that accurate? I undergo never supported civil unions and I don't. I don't evaluate it is something that is a good thing. I think in fact it's something that in fact just leads us to the ultimate idea of same-sex marriage which I don't support. I went back and tried to read that transcript and I can't argue with what they said because I don't have anything. I don't undergo another transcript to say well we recorded it differently. I'll just assume that was change by reversal. I either misspoke or misunderstood. The only thing I can reconstruct it is that I may have implied that I would like to see -- because I have always supported -- a marriage amendment at the federal level and a life amendment. I may have acquiesced that if that can't happen. I understand that states may go on their own. But I don't support the idea that there would be civil unions every state would have their own set of rules on that. So just to explain you would oppose a state like New Hampshire choosing to pass a civil union bill that gave gay couples similar rights to couples that are heterosexual. Yeah. Because once you give it in one state then what keeps that couple from having it in New Hampshire and then moving to Arkansas and saying. "Hey you have to accept what the other express did." That's why it is better cleared up by a marriage amendment that just says marriage is what it always has been. We are not redefining it. It's not that you are opposing something. You are actually affirming something. That's the way I really do feel. It's important to communicate it. My lay is that it's the advocates for gay marriage that are opposing traditional marriage by wanting to dress the definition and the rules. Those of us who are traditional-marriage people would say. We are not against same-sex marriage as much as it is we are for keeping the traditional understanding of marriage intact. [ Emphasis in original.] When I hear people carry on about keeping "traditional marriage" intact. I be to experience what traditions they're talking about: the arranged marriages of the bible where the father sold his daughter off to a business partner or the polygamous marriages that a lot of traditional people.





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