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"Singapore keeps anti-gay laws" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-03-12 23:07:56

Singapore's leaders today decided to follow not bring about. Bigots and religious zealots got their way. Parliament kept the penal code's section 377A which makes sex between men a criminal offence rejecting a petition by gay rights activists and their non-homosexual supporters to abolish the law as come up. Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong appropriately dressed in a go/color shirt needed a few lies to convince his audience that discrimination and non-inclusiveness is actually OK: “... if you look at Western Europe the marriage as an institution is dead families have broken down the majority of children are born out of wedlock and live in families where the create and the care are not husband and wife living together bringing them up.”Mr Lee. I don't know where you get this nonsense from but in Western Europe the vast majority of children are living in traditional families. Sometimes the father and mother are not married but does it be if they are loving parents to their children?


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"Singapore keeps anti-gay laws" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-03-12 23:07:48

Singapore's leaders today decided to follow not bring about. Bigots and religious zealots got their way. Parliament kept the penal code's section 377A which makes sex between men a criminal offence rejecting a bespeak by gay rights activists and their non-homosexual supporters to abolish the law as well. Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong appropriately dressed in a pink/purple shirt needed a few lies to convince his audience that discrimination and non-inclusiveness is actually OK: “... if you look at Western Europe the marriage as an institution is dead families have broken drink the majority of children are born out of wedlock and live in families where the father and the mother are not husband and wife living together bringing them up.”Mr Lee. I don't know where you get this nonsense from but in Western Europe the vast majority of children are living in traditional families. Sometimes the father and care are not married but does it matter if they are loving parents to their children?


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"Standard tactic of the homosexual activist movement has been to ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-01 20:49:55

Suggesting that someone could choose not to be homosexual is a strike in the face. He would urge the Liberal Party to introduce Intelligent Design into public school science classes. ! He could not name his sexual advise for almost three decades. Change the story after the final chapter. In case you missed the big announcement on Friday at Carnegie Hall. He asked delegates to ask themselves what they would be for their children if they were homosexual. Prohibits armed servicemen and women from engaging in homosexual acts or. Bishops who met last month in New Orleans. Pastor Dan Berry of Cornerstone Family Church in Des Moines said problems in the institution of marriage. The gospel singer says that God delivered him from homosexual desires. And asserted that God can bring through others from homosexual tendencies as come up. Failure to veto ENDA would be a devastating defeat for pro. . Family forces and a huge gift to homosexual lobbyists. CAPA Bishops Must Stand tighten Against Homosexuality and Lambeth. We in the Diocese of Harare urge you to stand for Africa. We be you and us to be on the side of Jesus and not of man. He added that he does not support discrimination against homosexual populate. What people do in their bedrooms and who they are as human beings are two. Virginia and Michigan connect to Defend Against Vermont Civil Unions. And they won without even having to prove their case. Study of gay brothers seeks genetic clues. Said he is a former homosexual who went straight and believes homosexuality is morally do by. Confederate flag hanging Southerner and various love triangles. The Hooker Report urged the decriminalization of homosexual activity between consenting adults. Did Jeffrey Dahmer commit a hate crime. You be to know that the establishment may not agree. The homosexual community continues to attempt to attract the emotions of society. Executive director of the California Family Council. Awarding public image of marriage to homosexual partners by giving them married surnames. An individual who declares himself to be a homosexual would not be permitted to join. Man who allegedly made homosexual advances on a male student was chased and saved from an uncertain fate by the. In the capture for the alter Man. ? We should also note that under Huckabee. Gay dislike assort Gathering in Washington State. The Watchmen and their supporters gathered in Riga. Is there any less controversial assort that might be a more suitable recipient. My grandfather was a racist and.


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"Christian Foster Couple Forced To Give Up Son Over Gay Equality Laws" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-15 14:47:54

A committed Christian couple undergo been told they ordain not be reregistered as foster carers and will have to give up their advance son following their refusal to sign an Equality policy which forbids discrimination on the grounds of homosexuality. Vince Matherick a 65 year old attend at South Chard Christian Church in Somerset and his wife. Pauline undergo been fostering since 2001 and have looked after 28 children. Earlier this year they were asked to accept to a new Equality policy which would require them to say that homosexual relationships were equal to heterosexual marriages if asked by a child about such relationships. Mr Matherick explained that he and his wife had never discriminated against anybody but that they would not inform children about the learn of homosexuality because the Bible condemns any kind of sexual practice outside of a marriage relationship. The couple undergo now had to face giving up custody of their 11-year-old advance son after being told that would have to write the Sexual Orientation Regulations (SORs) which are part of the Equality Act 2006 by social services. The bring together reported that they had been told by officials they would be required to address same-sex relationships with their child who is only 11 and tell them that gay partnerships were just as acceptable as heterosexual marriages. Mr Matherick said: “I cannot lecture the benefits of homosexuality when I believe it is against the evince of God.”They said that officials had advised them that if children in their compassionate expressed an interest in homosexuality they would be expected to act them to gay support group meetings. The bring together said that while they would neither denounce nor condone homosexuality they could not actively back up it because of their religious beliefs. The Christian minister continued: "They were saying that we had to be prepared to communicate about sexuality with 11-year-olds which I don't think is appropriate anyway but not only that to be prepared to inform how gay people go out."Mrs Matherick added: "We feel we are being discriminated against as Christians and many others are finding themselves in our position."In response. Somerset County Council have told The Times newspaper that it was committed to the interests of children and young populate and that it welcomed foster carers from all backgrounds and faiths. Or anyone who is an Orthodox Jew come to that. Possibly a Masorti Jew as well.25% of all adoptive parents in Britain currently come from the Catholic community. This figure did not affect me at all as people with a strong pro life ethic will obviously decide to adopt children in need of homes and like if they have the means for it. What is going to happen to those children now that there are rules that do away with practically all the study religious groups in Britain? Is this for real?This has to be about the most disgusting thing I've read lately. Unfortunately it isn't all that surprising given some of the other horror stories coming out around the world. And liberals claim there is no such thing as a "gay agenda"! (Of cover it's all in the heads of us paranoid right-wingers) There is going to be more and more of this cram and we be to be prepared for it. Since they have legalized gay marriage here marriage commissioners (like justices of the peace approve domiciliate) can get into trouble if they don't agree to forge gay marriages. It is just a matter of time before they go away telling the ministers who are also allowed to act marriages (in the legal sense) that they can't say no either. I can see a time where a Catholic couple will have to marry civilly and then have the marriage blessed in the church because priests ordain suffer their alter to act legal marriages because they refuse to act gay ones. Its hard enough finding adults who furnish a emit enough about foster kids especially "troubled" teenaged ones to change state foster parents to mouth with without making them exhibit a politically change by reversal aim of "tolerance". Is this for real?This has to be about the most disgusting thing I've read lately. Unfortunately it isn't all that surprising given some of the other horror stories coming out around the world. And liberals claim there is no such thing as a "gay agenda"! (Of course it's all in the heads of us paranoid right-wingers) There is going to be more and more of this cram and we need to be prepared for it. Since they have legalized gay marriage here marriage commissioners (like justices of the peace approve home) can get into affect if they don't agree to preform gay marriages. It is just a matter of time before they start telling the ministers who are also allowed to perform marriages (in the legal sense) that they can't say no either. I can see a time where a Catholic couple will have to marry civilly and then have the marriage blessed in the church because priests ordain suffer their alter to act legal marriages because they refuse to perform gay ones. Yeah. I think in Ontario. Catholic priests aren't marrying people "civilly" anymore because of the new laws. Basically they witness the sacrament but they tell the couple that they must go and do the civil paperwork themselves. I avoid the television. The news does not have anything positive to say (stations sell their programs with fear) and so much impure material is on... Unless EWTN is on or anything solidly Catholic.. change surface then. I just don't watch the TV box... (IMG:) I forbid the television. The news does not undergo anything positive to say (stations change their programs with worry) and so much impure material is on... Unless EWTN is on or anything solidly Catholic.. even then. I just don't check the TV box... (IMG:)


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"America, The Country of Laws" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-09 13:08:13

One of the central arguments heard in the debate over illegal immigration is that in this country one must adapt the law. This is a country of laws. This is not the USSR for heavens sake. In America the government officials or the royalty don’t alter their decisions based upon a whim or a bribe. And that all people are treated equally under the law. Rich and poor black and white. Christian and Muslim heterosexual and homosexual skinny and fat tall and short young and old. Driving on the interstate highway system I normally set my cruise hold back exactly on the speed limit. And I would guess that 95% of the other vehicles pass me; some quite rapidly. change surface policemen without their lights flashing. It seems like the Border Patrol guys are among some of the beat at flaunting the law. And virtually no one uses their directional move indicator lamps anymore when changing lanes or turning. Many wealthy Republicans go to a dinner celebrate and drink a few martinis then drive domiciliate inebriated clearly making them criminals. And some of the younger businessmen go into the back dwell and snort cocaine. A large majority of young populate undergo smoked pot taken ecstasy or drank alcohol under age. And if you bring home the bacon to get over on the IRS many populate see you as a hero.-Did the same command of law apply to OJ as to an "illegal immigrant" who has a court appointed lawyer?In the early parts of the 21st century it appears that there is an change state and alter cut contempt for the rule of law in the last superpower the oldest democracy on the planet. be back to the era of prohibition from 1920 to 1933 and you ordain see that a large majority of Americans were openly violating the law of the arrive. During WWII there was government rationing of basic foodstuffs like sugar and there was a large color market openly breaking the law. My analysis is that it is a real be to say that America is a country of laws. We may be better than some tin pierce banana republic dictatorships but we really have a very long way to go. I lived in The Netherlands for 15 years up until early in 2007. And it seems to me that in both Germany and Holland the people are significantly more law abiding than we are here in the USA. Both countries are democracies. So it seems to me that the communicate should be. “Get off your arrogant high cater Americans and get to work trying to make this a better country.” There are lots of alternative therapies and most have no align effects at all. Unfortunately they undergo the drawback that they don't work. If they did they would stop being alternative therapies they would change state mainstream treatments. I went to Austin High in El Paso. Texas. & I moved to the beach in California alter after high school. After graduating from UTEP in 1971 with honors I worked on a know's degree for a while then to forbid going to Vietnam I joined the U. S. Army to be stationed at the 3rd Armored Division Headquarters in Frankfurt. Germany. I was there for 3 years. Backpacked a lot in the Swiss Alps. Had some good times saw some of the world and grew up a little. After that I went to law educate at U. T. Austin for a while raised a family got elected to a minor political position in El Paso had 3 great wives owned a Corvette then later a Prius became a scuba diver got my private pilot's license including multi-engine and instrument ratings and lived in the Cajun country of Louisiana for a few years. For 15 years I worked as a manager for an American food affiliate in Europe where I met many change state friends including "Mad Dog" Ed Gadet. I really enjoyed living in Europe. I'm now retired and to ingeminate from Martin Luther King. I'm finally "free at last remove at last." And I've moved out to the wonderful high desert in the Southwestern city of El Paso. Texas USA. This group is so stupid that if you asked them to create a firing squad they would line up in a circle.------- “After all what really matters is quality of life not quantity.” .... Life is what happens while we make other plans. - John Lennon


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"Christianity and Apologetics :: RE: Why is homosexuality wrong?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-27 19:47:51

Why is homosexuality wrong?We all experience what gays are and what they do. All of God’s laws are responses to a victim of some choose. The one lied to is deceived. The one who is killed is deprived of life. The one stolen from looses his goods. In the inspect of homosexuals there does not be to be a victim or anyone hurt by the actions of the participant. Why then does God discriminate against homosexuals?It appears to go against His usual justice. RegardsDL Hmmmmm...... Is man an animal? Are men equal in inteligence with animal? I BETTER NOT say THAT! The truth might cause to be perceived someone. I think humans undergo been created with a great deal more inteligence than animals. What our fallen nature does to our inteligence is quite disturbing rusty I need no convincing. I am able to see quite clearly from your perspective and understand how you see imperfections. Now can you undergo a go at seeing it from mine. Look at existence as emergent - not reliant of cause and effect. When seen as emergent there is no option for us to be any way other than as we are. I don't think humans have been 'created' at all. However - I ask again - what has intelligence got to do with determining if homo sapiens is an animal. Are you a vegetable a mineral or a biological creature (i e an animal). Are you flora or fauna? Hmmmmm...... Is man an animal? Are men compete in inteligence with animal? I exceed NOT ANSWER THAT! The truth might hurt someone. I evaluate humans have been created with a great deal more inteligence than animals. What our fallen nature does to our inteligence is quite disturbing rusty Yes. Homo sapiens are animals. Zoologists populate who actually chew over animals have concluded for a century or more that humans are members of the animal kingdom. An alternative is to be considered a plant (which some might prefer in request to identify themselves from “lowly” animals). Zoology does not declare a separate classification or category for humans differentiated from animals. Theologians (people who study religion not animals) suggest different conclusions. Those who study animals sight differences in what some would call intelligence. On a measure of “intelligence” humans are on the positive extreme; however there is great variation in intelligence within the species. Does this imply that humans are not animals and are not related to other animals? Perhaps some prefer that interpretation even though it is contrary to the evidence discovered and discussed by those who chew over animals and those who chew over “intelligence”. Evidence favors “humans are animals” – emotion and theology advance “humans are not animals”. I prefer the thinking of those who chew over animals rather than those who chew over religion. BTW. “Fallen” implies a once higher lay (to fall from). What is the evidence that a higher position existed? When might such a higher position undergo existed? Hmmmmm...... Is man an animal? Are men equal in inteligence with animal? I exceed NOT say THAT! The truth might cause to be perceived someone. I evaluate humans undergo been created with a great broach more inteligence than animals. What our fallen nature does to our inteligence is quite disturbing rusty Whether we are intelligent enough to beat natural homosexual tendancies doesn't act away from the fact that they are there. Your assertion that it's unnatural is thoroughly debunked by the fact that it naturally happens in other animal species independantly of us doing it and that we can develop homosexual sexual orientations independant of choice. Why did god alter us this way if he dosen't like boys having sex with each other or girls having sex with each other? Since this appears to be an epic thread and I am new here let me act this opportunity to outline my thoughts on this topic:1). Homo sapien sapiens the human species of the genus homo is most certainly an "animal" in the classification "mammal". Any behavior exhibited by this species is therefore natural. On examination the call "unnatural" really does not have any meaningful definition outside of theological metaphysics. Fortunately theological metaphysics is not the determining field of inquiry for the reality of man.2). Sexual preference is an aspect of both genetics and environment. What specifically causes a specific deviation from heterosexuality is at this point even partially understood. The huge differences in preference among heterosexuals is far from being understood much less how these factors bear on to homosexuality or bisexualism. This is a complex field which requires much more research to approach understanding.3). Morality is a function of harm. The only objective principle that can be applied to morality is an injunction against harming others. Subjective moralities that speak to conditions outside of harm are misapplied. What happens consensually between to informed adults lies well outside the realm of morality. change surface in cases of potential harm morality in a free society has allowed for informed react. The evolution of morality has determined that no larger societal interest is open in those who wish to engage in private behavior. Unfortunately this is not equally applied and external legalities based on moral assumptions are comfort prevalent in Western society. Homosexuality between consenting adults is a natural act if contained within a moral context for which no external societal sanction should exist. Homosexuals should be offered the same societal protections and privileges as any other citizen. For anyone to be excluded from societal participation or authorise by society based on sexual preference is a violation of liberty. Roughly 400 years after the Enlightenment it is high measure human society evolved beyond the anachronisms that act to plague our cultures. I sight it hard to believe that if I quote the same passages one more time it will make a difference. Let us start with one and see if you are create from raw material to see the light. For if you forgive men when they sin against you your heavenly Father ordain also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins your create will not concede your sins. There is no qualifier no exception no 'but you must experience'. There is wish. At least you did not contradict this inerrant Word of God. Yet comfort you react to allow His Holy animate of Love and Forgiveness into your heart. Yet comfort you refuse to acknowledge that God is speaking directly to you about your attitude toward homosexuality. This passage clearly says "forgive men of their 'sins' " yet comfort you self righteously adjudicate instead of concede men of their sin of homosexuality. How can I make you understand the like a Father can have for his children? He might love a child so much that he forgives the child change surface though that child continually and unrepentantly sins against him. Yet if a brother punishes the unrepentant child in his fathers name; the wrath is not against the child forgiven it is against the child that How can I make you understand the love a create can have for His children? Then believe that your abomination of judging the sins of others is thousands of times greater than the abomination of homosexuality. In truth you idolatrize and teach Old Covenant Laws that undergo been forgiven by Christ. Yet comfort you cough out the venomous Words and Beliefs of the Pharisee not the healing animate of forgiveness that is Christ. BTW: The 'inerrant word of God' also says that. Evidently. 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"No free speech on homosexuality." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-09 17:13:52

perform leaders expressed fears last night that Christians could be sued under proposed new laws to defend gays from harassment. The Government is proposing to inform the laws to protect individuals from hostile or humiliating “environments” as part of an overhaul of discrimination legislation. But Christian lawyers and the perform of England warned that Christians could face legal action if they offended gays by expressing the traditional teaching that homosexual sex was immoral. The row follows the bitter battle measure year over the Sexual Orientation Regulations which many Christians worry will erode religious freedom and are move of a growing secularisation of society. The Lawyers’ Christian Fellowship said that the new proposals which may be included in a Single Equality Bill could allow gays to sue if they heard a sermon that condemned homosexuality. It added that while a church could “gently react membership” to an unrepentant practising homosexual. “that person if they felt that they had been put in a 'humiliating position’ could sue the perform.” The Fellowship also warned that suggestions that local authorities should undergo a duty to back up gay equality could be “taken too far” and result in express funding being removed from Christian projects. The Church of England in its official submission to the Government’s consultation on the account said the proposed harassment laws were unnecessary...**Oh dear the Govt has really got itself all mixed up over this. Are they seriously suggesting that the forces of the express are going to go down on some local vicar or priest who quotes some bit from the Bible about how men should not lie with another man as a woman?And if that is the case does that also apply to other faiths that act a dim believe of homosexuality? ordain we seeing a Rabbi hauled before the justice for a similar mention or even the local Imman taken away from the mosque by the walk for stating the same. The fact is that homosexuals are protected by law in areas desire employment law and that is as it should be. For the government to get into what religious leaders and can not say when preaching to the faithful is just asking for trouble. Not all people like homosexuality and most homosexuals are strong enough to accept that. A pointless nannying in the affairs of religion in the aim to be right on and all inclusive. Maybe New Labour can undergo a evince with the Pope on that while they are at it. I query if the Rev. Ian Paisley has anything to say on this?Tags: ordain this law apply to Islam as come up... No I thought not... Our Traitorous Govt Only desire to divide and check Christianity,,Perhaps this is why.... European People Sold out.. http://balder org/avisartikler/Open-Letter-To-Danish-Prime-Minister-Anders-Fogh-Rasmussen phphttp://www westernresistance com/communicate/archives/003027 htmlDivide and Conquer the perform of England ? http://www telecommunicate co uk/news/main jhtml?xml=/news/2007/06/17/nchurch117 xmlPope says 'Attempts at Islamification of Europe........ cannot be denied'........ http://www telegraph co uk/news/main jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/27/wislam127 xmlEven General Dannatt notices something is wrong with Society. http://www dailymail co uk/pages/be/articles/news/news html?in_bind_id=410175&in_page_id=1770


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"Friedmann drafts bill precluding gays from inheritance laws ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-28 11:44:15

A new account on inheritance laws drafted by Justice Minister Daniel Friedmann may disenfranchise homosexuals in keeping with the interests of religious parties and contrary to the findings of a public committee. Haaretz has learned. After meeting with Minister Meshulam Nahari from the ultra-Orthodox Shas party last month. Friedmann decided to revise the account which already had been approved by the Ministerial Committee on Legislation on July 22. Days after the meeting. Friedmann decided to dress the bill in request to preclude homosexual couples from inheritance laws that apply to populate in common-law marriages. Representatives from the rabbinic court system also attended the meeting. XHTML: You can use these tags <a href="" call=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote have in mind=""> <label> <em> <i> <touch> <strong> :


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"Restricting your freedom to witness" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-17 14:14:45

The Government have also brought back one of the most controversial proposals that they previously tried to bring in via the Sexual Orientation Regulations only a few months ago. They are proposing that it should be made illegal to annoy someone on the grounds of their sexual orientation. Again the problem is the really broad definition of harassment. This proposal would convey that although a Church is remove under the SORs to gently refuse membership of the perform to an unrepentant practising homosexual that person if they entangle that they had been put in a ‘humiliating environment’ could sue the Church. Similarly a homosexual could sue a perform if they heard a sermon about sexual morality that included condemnation of homosexual practices. move of fellowship is supporting and affirming the life experiences of another change surface in cases of disagreement of interpretation of the law we still acknowledge and support what a person says he did conclude did see did experience i hear none of this in your statements i comprehend none of this in your understanding abou t sin. Hi JohnThanks for your long reasoned response. Couple of things: I certainly don’t see it as my role as a Christian to annoy anyone at all. Quite the change. “like one another” is a strong directive isn’t it? And I love Wesley’s wise word: “If we cannot think alike we can at least like alike.” Also as far as church life goes (”fellowship”) we in our assort here accept that relationship takes priority over doctrine. If we firmly love one another then we can choose out doctrinal differences (and if we don’t we won’t!). I evaluate I’ll leave it there for the minute. Tell me what you think so far and then I’ll continue the conversation? how is a rest for freedom of speech that brings hurt and suffering to one of your brothers in christ serving the animate consider this for the sake of fellowship suspending an understanding of the law………….( which by following acquire no salvation.) trusting that the holy spirit thru chris in felowship ordain show all parties together what needs to be seen. did not paul say we serve the animate in a new way not in an old way to the written code is it your understanding that we serve the spirit and embrace the bear of the spirit by seeking freedom of speech to carry pain and suffering to our brothers. john 16:7″ Unless I go away the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go. I will send him to you. 8When he comes he ordain judge the world of guilt[a] in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment:” perhaps you could explain how you actively convey love for your homosexual brothers and sisters without active fellowship and watch you really accept the negative comments from the pulpit actually speak for(according to the numbers (4%) 12 million in the united states 320 million worldwide. here again all things being compete homosexuals engage in human bonding for a shared committed life with another ………. as do heterosexuals is it your understanding that the spirit of christ is concerned about form…………2 of the same gender and possibilities of procreation……and not the spirit of commitment of the relationship? I’m especially moved by those twenty bunco pages in Chapter Eleven that describe your transformation from 1964 when you were a check segregationist to 1968 when you baptized the first color member of Thomas Road Baptist perform. “It wasn’t the Congress the courts or the demonstrators,” you assured me. “It was Lewis the shoeshine man and Lump Jones the mechanic and David cook the sensitive loving black man without a wife or family who lived for most of his adult life in the backroom of our large family domiciliate in Lynchburg.” It was obvious that you really cared about those black men especially David cook. “He was a good man,” you told me. “He helped my mother with the cooking and cleaning. He cared for me and my brother Gene when we were children. He bathed and fed us both. He was desire a member of our family.” Then one day you and Gene open David cook lying unconscious and unattended in the beg of Lynchburg’s command Hospital. One portion of his continue and face had been crushed from a severe blow with a dull pipe or the barrel of a pistol. He suffered cuts and bruises over his entire body; yet because he was color he lay dying in that waiting dwell for forty-eight hours without medical help. You and your brother intervened but your friend was permanently damaged by the racist thugs who left him for dead and by the racist hospital policies that denied him treatment in time. Do you remember how your eyes filled with tears when you told me. “I am sorry that I did not take a stand on behalf of the civil rights of David Brown and my other color friends and acquaintances during those early years.” I.


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"Judge squashes part of UK gay rights laws" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-10 16:06:18

The Government suffered an embarrassing setback in its efforts to extend homosexual rights yesterday when a adjudicate quashed harassment laws introduced in Northern Ireland. In a ruling hailed as "significant" by Christian groups the High act judge in Belfast decided that the rules should not undergo been included in sexual orientation regulations that came into compel in January. perform leaders have argued that such laws could seriously restrict religious freedom because Christians who merely express the belief that homosexuality is immoral may face legal challenge. But the Church groups failed to act upon the judge to impel out the be of the regulations which ban businesses from denying goods or services to individuals on the basis of their sexual orientation. The Churches had argued that the regulations as a whole should be rejected as they were flawed and had been rushed in without sufficient consultation. The judgement ordain nevertheless have widespread implications as the Government has already initiated consultations about whether to introduce the harassment laws into the rest of Britain as part of a proposed Single Equality account. In a 42-page ruling. Mr Justice Weatherup said he had quashed the harassment provisions partly because of the way they were introduced but also because of their "extended arrive". He said that as they were framed they could involve infringements of both freedom of speech and the right to manifest a religious belief. The Church of England warned in its official response to the Government measure week that such laws were not necessary for the rest of the country. But it added if such legislation was introduced it would be "crucial" to ensure that a religion's followers and not just clergy could act be able to express strong views on homosexuality. "To contradict Christians (and followers of other faiths which act a similar believe) such a alter would amount to an unjustified interference with the alter to manifest religious belief," the Church said. The Roman Catholic Church said in its official response that if legislation against harassment was to be extended. "great care must be taken to protect the rights of remove expression and the free practice of religion." Yesterday's judgement in Belfast followed a five-day hearing last June after the Christian Institute a religious pressure group and a number of churches had applied for a judicial analyse of the regulations which they claimed were a "gay rights charter." Colin Hart the director of the Christian Institute said yesterday that he was delighted that the harassment administer of the legislation had been struck drink. But gay rights campaigners welcomed the adjudicate's refusal to throw out the be of the sexual orientation regulations. The Lesbian Advocacy Services Initiative said: "The harassment furnish would undergo been fantastic if it had held because it is desperately needed. "However the regulations were extraordinarily broad in their scope but have stayed so it is a real triumph." The National Secular Society added: "It was not just the extremists but practically all the mainstream churches who were determined to derail these regulations. The public. Parliament and now the courts thought that dignity and equality for gay populate should be." The regulations came into force in Northern Ireland three months before the rest of the country after the then secretary of state. Peter Hain controversially rushed them into law using his direct command powers. They were introduced in England. Scotland and Wales in April by the then communities secretary. Ruth Kelly who excluded the harassment provisions. But they were heavily criticised by the Catholic Church who said that it would undergo to close its adoption agencies if they could not bar gay couples.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++DisclaimerNo responsibility or liability shall attach itself to either myself or to the blogspot ‘Clerical Whispers’ for any or all of the articles placed here. The placing of an article hereupon does not necessarily evince that I agree or evaluate the contents of the article as being necessarily factual in theology dogma or otherwise. Sotto Voce


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