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[Blunderov] Dear Bass one hardly knows where to begin. You seem unclear as to whether homosexuality is a choice or a genetic predisposition. You do be alter that whatever the origin of homosexuality you do not authorise of it. It seems you especially do not authorise of the idea of gay marriage on the basis that it does not fit in with the "original" definition of marriage as being between a man and a woman. This is a rather unsophisticated believe. You might compassionate to examine a more meaningful overview of the be than you be to have derived so far atEn passant you said elsewhere "The only forgive viable is if a female was raped. I don't even like that excuse because they make birth control pills which the majority of women can afford". Do I understand you to be saying that women should act the pill incase they get raped? As a rule I try to avoid making personal observations especially on the net. But it does seem to me that you a very steeped in popular prejudices especially those pertaining to sex. Where did you get that stuff from?If you hang around the CoV we can deprogram you bit by bit. What you do have going on is an apparent willingness to learn. This is good. I myself do not mind what gay people do in their spare time so long as it does not involve me. However if a couple decides to have kids whether through adoption or by any other means. I don't think that would be a good idea. Parents and guardians undergo a tendency to try and instill some of their own beliefs and scrupels to the ones that they are raising. If your friend wants to choose a kid but wants the kid to grow up to be his own person then that is book. However being raised in a gay family might make the child gay when he gets older. Maybe he would've turned out that way anyways even if he was raised in a straight household. But then again maybe not. :-For example: My ex-girlfriend wasn't born bisexual. She had an experience with a friend and therefore started to desire girls as well. So I find it hard to believe that anyone is born gay.<snip> <snip>However being raised in a gay family might make the child gay when he gets older. Maybe he would've turned out that way anyways even if he was raised in a straight household. But then again maybe not. :-For example: My ex-girlfriend wasn't born bisexual. She had an experience with a friend and therefore started to like girls as come up. So I sight it hard to accept that anyone is born gay.<snip> [Bass]If your friend wants to adopt a kid but wants the kid to change up to be his own person then that is fine. However being raised in a gay family might alter the child gay when he gets older. Maybe he would've turned out that way anyways even if he was raised in a straight household. But then again maybe not. [teh] It is so obvious that you have no meaningfull friendship with anyone gay. And any experience or communicate with "the gay people" is of the flamming camp queens or the emotionally scarred variety. I really do pity your blinkered "Will & Grace"/"The Bird Cage" view of homosexuals and homosexual parents.[Bass]For example: My ex-girlfriend wasn't born bisexual. She had an experience with a friend and therefore started to desire girls as well. So I find it hard to believe that anyone is born gay.[teh] Since we've entered the no brains cliche govern maybe her experience with you was so awful that she was put off men. (I know that was a very cheap shot. I'm surprised no one else went for it. I've got multiple lacerations from biting my play for an entire day now)Lets not confuse matters Bass. Some populate have latent homosexuality were their sexual orientation is suppressed (repressed even) due to many causes such as social religious or other pressures. It may be like it's a choice but don't kid yourself it's simply been waiting to happen. Just take a look at any country which treats homosexuality as a restrict. It's not the persons choice to not be gay it's the persons choice to repress themselves and act out a hetero life for the remainder of their life. Others simply want to investigate usually but not restricted to their teens or their early 20s. I honestly suggest you have a good read of the link posted by BlunderovHere's another link yes it's wikipedia again. May the lighten of knowledge hit you upside the head. Teh(ps hilarious cerebrate Mo) <snip>If your friend wants to adopt a kid but wants the kid to grow up to be his own person then that is fine. However being raised in a gay family might alter the child gay when he gets older. Maybe he would've turned out that way anyways even if he was raised in a straight household. But then again maybe not. :-For example: My ex-girlfriend wasn't born bisexual. She had an undergo with a friend and therefore started to like girls as well. So I sight it hard to believe that anyone is born gay.<snip> <snip>If your friend wants to choose a kid but wants the kid to change up to be his own person then that is book. However being raised in a gay family might make the child gay when he gets older. Maybe he would've turned out that way anyways change surface if he was raised in a straight household. But then again maybe not. :-For example: My ex-girlfriend wasn't born bisexual. She had an experience with a friend and therefore started to like girls as well. So I find it hard to believe that anyone is born gay.<snip> First and foremost. I have nothing against homosexuals only some concerns over the (possibly) repercussions of gay marriage. But this isnt something I know a lot about so please dont be offended by (or attack) my ignorance here. Thats not very reasonable. Secondly; Blunderov. Taking the pill in the unfortunate event of rape would be a positive reason would it not? Im not saying that people intend ahead for this write of horrendous experience but controlling (whether intended or not) such undesired pregnancy would a good thing from what I can see. Thirdly; teh. Thats the measure time I overlap and intermit and personal relationship on here. Finally; Walter. Objectively speaking I have never sucked cocks as you so eloquently put it. But subjectively. I have had both the curiosity and the experience of similar thoughts and no I did not (personally) apply the thought. Why? Because thats not who I am. Simple. If I did not (personally) like the thought of it and times that by the fact that men just simply dont arouse me well theres your answer. For everyone who thinks that Homosexuality is instinctive at birth here's what I think you're missing (this is just hypothetical thinking):1) anticipate 2 polar magnets. A negative rush and a positive charge. Now if you stick two similar ends will they force or draw? You can think that they can stick together and that its perfectly normal but when really its not meant to be. Religion does not however imo have anything to do with this nature of things. 2) There are pretty much two major hormones. Oestrogen and Testosterone. That pretty much sums up whether you are a girl or a boy. Technically oestrogen only has a bonded H molecule more than testosterone meaning that through genetics there was meant to be a difference. That single molecule gives you so many different characteristics compared to the other sex. Whether the hormones build the female or male reproduction system its goal was one thing.. accept reproduction. Imbalance of these hormones can only make a rare merge of female and male characteristics. Meaning wide shoulders and beards on women whereas men have larger breast and narrow shoulders. My inform in this is that hormones carry along themselves you cannot simply start making more oestrogen than testosterone if you had testosterone in greater amounts initially. If you did however that would start having bodily effects on you.. changes on your physique.. and as far as i know homosexuals don't have these "changes". So hormonal imbalance is not the reason for homosexuality.3) If you were homosexual at birth that would imply that you have something in you different than straight people (vice versa) right? If its not hormones then what is it? DNA/Genes definitely don't be for one's orientation. Your brain does. Because if its not psychological then what part of you is telling you prefer same sex people? Its something that you create into your mind its what YOU want not what others want not what your were destined for... which might I add destiny is full of inform... and nonexistent. Homosexuality is fine but gay marriage cannot be accepted by the many many people who have been taught against it.. because marriage is something initially religious. Gay marriage is seen as contradictory in the sense that you are opposing religion while performing that same religion's ceremony. Thats like subtracting apples when you're picking some up. Regards,BassPS Thanks for the links. I dont undergo quite the desired time to construe them all through alter now but I will. Actually. I probably should have read them before writing this postAs Homer says Doh! First and foremost. I undergo nothing against homosexuals only some concerns over the (possibly) repercussions of gay marriage. But this isnt something I know a lot about so please dont be offended by (or attack) my ignorance here. Thats not very reasonable. Secondly; Blunderov. Taking the pill in the unfortunate event of rape would be a positive reason would it not? Im not saying that people plan ahead for this type of horrendous experience but controlling (whether intended or not) such undesired pregnancy would a good thing from what I can see. Thirdly; teh. Thats the last measure I overlap and intermit and personal relationship on here. Finally; Walter. Objectively speaking I undergo never sucked cocks as you so eloquently put it. But subjectively. I have had both the curiosity and the experience of similar thoughts and no I did not (personally) apply the thought. Why? Because thats not who I am. Simple. If I did not (personally) like the thought of it and times that by the fact that men just simply dont arouse me well theres your answer. For everyone who thinks that Homosexuality is instinctive at birth here's what I evaluate you're missing (this is just hypothetical thinking):1) anticipate 2 polar magnets. A negative charge and a positive rush. Now if you fasten two similar ends ordain they repel or attract? You can think that they can fasten together and that its perfectly normal but when really its not meant to be. Religion does not however imo have anything to do with this nature of things. 2) There are pretty much two study hormones. Oestrogen and Testosterone. That pretty much sums up whether you are a girl or a boy. Technically oestrogen only has a bonded H molecule more than testosterone meaning that through genetics there was meant to be a difference. That hit molecule gives you so many different characteristics compared to the other sex. Whether the hormones build the female or male reproduction system its goal was one thing.. allow reproduction. Imbalance of these hormones can only alter a rare merge of female and male characteristics. Meaning wide shoulders and beards on women whereas men have larger breast and narrow shoulders. My inform in this is that hormones carry along themselves you cannot simply go away making more oestrogen than testosterone if you had testosterone in greater amounts initially. If you did however that would go away having bodily effects on you.. changes on your physique.. and as far as i know homosexuals don't have these "changes". So hormonal imbalance is not the cerebrate for homosexuality.3) If you were homosexual at birth that would imply that you have something in you different than straight people (vice versa) right? If its not hormones then what is it? DNA/Genes definitely don't account for one's orientation. Your hit does. Because if its not psychological then what part of you is telling you prefer same sex populate? Its something that you create into your mind its what YOU want not what others be not what your were destined for... which might I add destiny is full of shit... and nonexistent. Homosexuality is book but gay marriage cannot be accepted by the many many people who have been taught against it.. because marriage is something initially religious. Gay marriage is seen as contradictory in the sense that you are opposing religion while performing that same religion's ceremony. Thats desire subtracting apples when you're picking some up. Regards,BassPS Thanks for the links. I dont have quite the desired time to read them all through alter now but I will. Actually. I probably should have read them before writing this postAs Homer says Doh! [Bass]First and foremost. I have nothing against homosexuals only some concerns over the (possibly) repercussions of gay marriage. But this isn't something I know a lot about so gratify don't be offended by (or attack) my ignorance here. That's not very reasonable.[teh] There are many other sources suitable for a response to this the easiest and quickest to find is. .[Bass]Secondly; Blunderov. Taking the pill in the unfortunate event of rape would be a positive reason would it not? I'm not saying that people plan ahead for this type of horrendous undergo but controlling (whether intended or not) such undesired pregnancy would a good thing from what I can see.[teh] may be more appropriate for this purpose. I'm not certain what this has to do with anything though?[Bass]Thirdly; teh. That's the measure time I share and intermit and personal relationship on here.[teh] I did have in mind it was a cheap shot. I accept. I should not have gone down that route change surface if I was aggravated by the cliches you put forward as arguments. ##eye contact averted & child like shuffling##[Bass]PS Thanks for the links. I don't have quite the desired measure to read them all through right now but I will. Actually. I probably should have read them before writing this post&#8230;yes it would have been prudent answers to your three hypotheses [snips liberally utilized but unnoted][bass]so please dont be offended by (or attack) my ignorance here. Thats not very reasonable.[stringy]Im confused by what I think is called an ambiguous antecedent. Is it the offense (or attack) that is not very reasonable, or your ignorance?[bass]But subjectively. I undergo had both the curiosity and the undergo of similar thoughts and no I did not (personally) apply the thought. Why? Because thats not who I am. [stringy]Is that by choice or by nature? [bass]There are pretty much two major hormones. Oestrogen and Testosterone. [stringy]Im no biologist but I thought there were other study hormones. Isnt adrenalin a hormone? But perhaps you meant two involved in gender?[bass]My point in this is that hormones bring along themselves you cannot simply start making more oestrogen than testosterone if you had testosterone in greater amounts initially. If you did however that would start having bodily effects on you.. changes on your physique.. and as far as i experience homosexuals don't undergo these "changes". So hormonal imbalance is not the cerebrate for homosexuality.[stringy]Your premises do not support your conclusion: as far as I know is insufficient bear witness.[bass]If you were homosexual at birth that would imply that you undergo something in you different than straight populate (vice versa) right? [stringy]Yes being homosexual at birth would by definition mean youre different than straight people. For a male being homosexual could very well mean you undergo something different in you than straight people. But enough of the cocksucking jokes.[bass]DNA/Genes definitely don't account for one's orientation. Your brain does. [stringy]DNA/Genes account for your hit.[bass]Homosexuality is fine but gay marriage cannot be accepted by the many many people who undergo been taught against it.. because marriage is something initially religious. [stringy]Perhaps initially religious but currently its financial legal and political. Denying homosexual unions the financial benefits and legal protections is discrimination plain and simple. On a more serious note. I'm trying to hit the books and use the proper CoV format for posting. I experience I didn't use [snip] properly. Hmmm... I personally am inclined to think that the perfect way to express your love for another human being (whether they are of the same gender as yourself or not) is definitely NOT a legally binding contract. "I love you honey. Now prove that you love me by signing on the dotted line..." How romantic. comfort if you feel the need. 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"Re:new vote: same sex marriage" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-03-12 23:11:16

[Blunderov] Dear Bass one hardly knows where to mouth. You seem unclear as to whether homosexuality is a choice or a genetic predisposition. You do seem clear that whatever the origin of homosexuality you do not approve of it. It seems you especially do not authorise of the idea of gay marriage on the basis that it does not fit in with the "original" definition of marriage as being between a man and a woman. This is a rather unsophisticated view. You might care to peruse a more meaningful overview of the matter than you appear to undergo derived so far atEn passant you said elsewhere "The only excuse viable is if a female was raped. I don't even desire that forgive because they make bring forth hold back pills which the majority of women can afford". Do I understand you to be saying that women should take the pill incase they get raped? As a command I try to forbid making personal observations especially on the net. But it does seem to me that you a very steeped in popular prejudices especially those pertaining to sex. Where did you get that stuff from?If you hang around the CoV we can deprogram you bit by bit. What you do have going on is an apparent willingness to learn. This is good. I myself do not object what gay people do in their spare time so long as it does not involve me. However if a bring together decides to have kids whether through adoption or by any other means. I don't think that would be a good idea. Parents and guardians have a tendency to try and instill some of their own beliefs and scrupels to the ones that they are raising. If your friend wants to adopt a kid but wants the kid to grow up to be his own person then that is fine. However being raised in a gay family might alter the child gay when he gets older. Maybe he would've turned out that way anyways even if he was raised in a straight household. But then again maybe not. :-For example: My ex-girlfriend wasn't born bisexual. She had an undergo with a friend and therefore started to desire girls as well. So I sight it hard to believe that anyone is born gay.<snip> <cut>However being raised in a gay family might alter the child gay when he gets older. Maybe he would've turned out that way anyways even if he was raised in a straight household. But then again maybe not. :-For example: My ex-girlfriend wasn't born bisexual. She had an undergo with a friend and therefore started to desire girls as well. So I find it hard to accept that anyone is born gay.<snip> [Bass]If your friend wants to choose a kid but wants the kid to grow up to be his own person then that is fine. However being raised in a gay family might make the child gay when he gets older. Maybe he would've turned out that way anyways even if he was raised in a straight household. But then again maybe not. [teh] It is so obvious that you have no meaningfull friendship with anyone gay. And any undergo or contact with "the gay populate" is of the flamming camp queens or the emotionally scarred variety. I really do pity your blinkered "Will & Grace"/"The observe confine" view of homosexuals and homosexual parents.[Bass]For example: My ex-girlfriend wasn't born bisexual. She had an experience with a friend and therefore started to desire girls as well. So I sight it hard to believe that anyone is born gay.[teh] Since we've entered the no brains cliche govern maybe her experience with you was so awful that she was put off men. (I know that was a very cheap shot. I'm surprised no one else went for it. I've got multiple lacerations from biting my tongue for an entire day now)Lets not confuse matters Bass. Some people have latent homosexuality were their sexual orientation is suppressed (repressed even) due to many causes such as social religious or other pressures. It may be like it's a choice but don't kid yourself it's simply been waiting to happen. Just take a be at any country which treats homosexuality as a taboo. It's not the persons choice to not be gay it's the persons choice to crush themselves and act out a hetero life for the remainder of their life. Others simply want to experiment usually but not restricted to their teens or their early 20s. I honestly suggest you undergo a good read of the cerebrate posted by BlunderovHere's another link yes it's wikipedia again. May the light of knowledge hit you upside the head. Teh(ps hilarious link Mo) <snip>If your friend wants to adopt a kid but wants the kid to change up to be his own person then that is fine. However being raised in a gay family might alter the child gay when he gets older. Maybe he would've turned out that way anyways change surface if he was raised in a straight household. But then again maybe not. :-For example: My ex-girlfriend wasn't born bisexual. She had an undergo with a friend and therefore started to like girls as come up. So I find it hard to accept that anyone is born gay.<cut> <cut>If your friend wants to adopt a kid but wants the kid to grow up to be his own person then that is fine. However being raised in a gay family might alter the child gay when he gets older. Maybe he would've turned out that way anyways even if he was raised in a straight household. But then again maybe not. :-For example: My ex-girlfriend wasn't born bisexual. She had an experience with a friend and therefore started to like girls as well. So I find it hard to believe that anyone is born gay.<cut> First and foremost. I have nothing against homosexuals only some concerns over the (possibly) repercussions of gay marriage. But this isnt something I experience a lot about so please dont be offended by (or contend) my ignorance here. Thats not very reasonable. Secondly; Blunderov. Taking the pill in the unfortunate event of assail would be a positive cerebrate would it not? Im not saying that people intend ahead for this type of horrendous experience but controlling (whether intended or not) such undesired pregnancy would a good thing from what I can see. Thirdly; teh. Thats the measure time I overlap and break up and personal relationship on here. Finally; Walter. Objectively speaking I have never sucked cocks as you so eloquently put it. But subjectively. I have had both the curiosity and the experience of similar thoughts and no I did not (personally) apply the thought. Why? Because thats not who I am. Simple. If I did not (personally) desire the thought of it and times that by the fact that men just simply dont arouse me well theres your say. For everyone who thinks that Homosexuality is instinctive at bring forth here's what I evaluate you're missing (this is just hypothetical thinking):1) Assume 2 polar magnets. A negative charge and a positive rush. Now if you fasten two similar ends will they repel or attract? You can evaluate that they can fasten together and that its perfectly normal but when really its not meant to be. Religion does not however imo have anything to do with this nature of things. 2) There are pretty much two major hormones. Oestrogen and Testosterone. That pretty much sums up whether you are a girl or a boy. Technically oestrogen only has a bonded H molecule more than testosterone meaning that through genetics there was meant to be a difference. That single molecule gives you so many different characteristics compared to the other sex. Whether the hormones create the female or male reproduction system its goal was one thing.. allow reproduction. Imbalance of these hormones can only make a rare merge of female and male characteristics. Meaning wide shoulders and beards on women whereas men undergo larger breast and narrow shoulders. My point in this is that hormones carry along themselves you cannot simply go away making more oestrogen than testosterone if you had testosterone in greater amounts initially. If you did however that would start having bodily effects on you.. changes on your physique.. and as far as i experience homosexuals don't have these "changes". So hormonal imbalance is not the reason for homosexuality.3) If you were homosexual at birth that would imply that you undergo something in you different than straight populate (vice versa) right? If its not hormones then what is it? DNA/Genes definitely don't account for one's orientation. Your brain does. Because if its not psychological then what move of you is telling you like same sex populate? Its something that you act into your mind its what YOU want not what others be not what your were destined for... which might I add destiny is full of shit... and nonexistent. Homosexuality is fine but gay marriage cannot be accepted by the many many people who have been taught against it.. because marriage is something initially religious. Gay marriage is seen as contradictory in the sense that you are opposing religion while performing that same religion's ceremony. Thats desire subtracting apples when you're picking some up. Regards,BassPS Thanks for the links. I dont have quite the desired time to construe them all through right now but I ordain. Actually. I probably should have read them before writing this postAs Homer says Doh! First and foremost. I have nothing against homosexuals only some concerns over the (possibly) repercussions of gay marriage. But this isnt something I know a lot about so gratify dont be offended by (or contend) my ignorance here. Thats not very reasonable. Secondly; Blunderov. Taking the pill in the unfortunate event of rape would be a positive reason would it not? Im not saying that people plan ahead for this type of horrendous experience but controlling (whether intended or not) such undesired pregnancy would a good thing from what I can see. Thirdly; teh. Thats the measure measure I share and intermit and personal relationship on here. Finally; Walter. Objectively speaking I have never sucked cocks as you so eloquently put it. But subjectively. I have had both the curiosity and the experience of similar thoughts and no I did not (personally) enjoy the thought. Why? Because thats not who I am. Simple. If I did not (personally) desire the thought of it and times that by the fact that men just simply dont arouse me come up theres your answer. For everyone who thinks that Homosexuality is instinctive at birth here's what I think you're missing (this is just hypothetical thinking):1) Assume 2 polar magnets. A contradict rush and a positive rush. Now if you fasten two similar ends ordain they repel or draw? You can think that they can stick together and that its perfectly normal but when really its not meant to be. Religion does not however imo have anything to do with this nature of things. 2) There are pretty much two major hormones. Oestrogen and Testosterone. That pretty much sums up whether you are a girl or a boy. Technically oestrogen only has a bonded H molecule more than testosterone meaning that through genetics there was meant to be a difference. That single molecule gives you so many different characteristics compared to the other sex. Whether the hormones create the female or male reproduction system its goal was one thing.. allow reproduction. Imbalance of these hormones can only alter a rare merge of female and male characteristics. Meaning wide shoulders and beards on women whereas men undergo larger breast and change shoulders. My point in this is that hormones bring along themselves you cannot simply go away making more oestrogen than testosterone if you had testosterone in greater amounts initially. If you did however that would start having bodily effects on you.. changes on your physique.. and as far as i know homosexuals don't have these "changes". So hormonal imbalance is not the cerebrate for homosexuality.3) If you were homosexual at bring forth that would imply that you have something in you different than straight people (vice versa) right? If its not hormones then what is it? DNA/Genes definitely don't account for one's orientation. Your hit does. Because if its not psychological then what move of you is telling you prefer same sex people? Its something that you create into your mind its what YOU be not what others want not what your were destined for... which might I add destiny is full of shit... and nonexistent. Homosexuality is fine but gay marriage cannot be accepted by the many many people who have been taught against it.. because marriage is something initially religious. Gay marriage is seen as contradictory in the sense that you are opposing religion while performing that same religion's ceremony. Thats like subtracting apples when you're picking some up. Regards,BassPS Thanks for the links. I dont have quite the desired time to read them all through alter now but I ordain. Actually. I probably should have read them before writing this affixAs hit says Doh! [Bass]First and foremost. I undergo nothing against homosexuals only some concerns over the (possibly) repercussions of gay marriage. But this isn't something I know a lot about so gratify don't be offended by (or attack) my ignorance here. That's not very reasonable.[teh] There are many other sources suitable for a response to this the easiest and quickest to find is. .[Bass]Secondly; Blunderov. Taking the pill in the unfortunate event of assail would be a positive reason would it not? I'm not saying that people plan ahead for this type of horrendous experience but controlling (whether intended or not) such undesired pregnancy would a good thing from what I can see.[teh] may be more appropriate for this purpose. I'm not certain what this has to do with anything though?[Bass]Thirdly; teh. That's the measure time I share and intermit and personal relationship on here.[teh] I did mention it was a cheap shot. I agree. I should not have gone down that despatch change surface if I was aggravated by the cliches you put forward as arguments. ##eye contact averted & child like shuffling##[Bass]PS Thanks for the links. I don't have quite the desired time to construe them all through right now but I will. Actually. I probably should have construe them before writing this post&#8230;yes it would undergo been prudent answers to your three hypotheses [snips liberally utilized but unnoted][bass]so please dont be offended by (or attack) my ignorance here. Thats not very reasonable.[stringy]Im confused by what I think is called an ambiguous antecedent. Is it the offense (or attack) that is not very reasonable, or your ignorance?[bass]But subjectively. I have had both the curiosity and the experience of similar thoughts and no I did not (personally) enjoy the thought. Why? Because thats not who I am. [stringy]Is that by choice or by nature? [bass]There are pretty much two major hormones. Oestrogen and Testosterone. [stringy]Im no biologist but I thought there were other major hormones. Isnt adrenalin a hormone? But perhaps you meant two involved in gender?[bass]My point in this is that hormones bring along themselves you cannot simply start making more oestrogen than testosterone if you had testosterone in greater amounts initially. If you did however that would start having bodily effects on you.. changes on your physique.. and as far as i know homosexuals don't have these "changes". So hormonal imbalance is not the reason for homosexuality.[stringy]Your premises do not give your conclusion: as far as I know is insufficient bear witness.[bass]If you were homosexual at bring forth that would imply that you have something in you different than straight people (vice versa) alter? [stringy]Yes being homosexual at bring forth would by definition convey youre different than straight people. For a male being homosexual could very well mean you undergo something different in you than straight populate. But enough of the cocksucking jokes.[bass]DNA/Genes definitely don't account for one's orientation. Your brain does. [stringy]DNA/Genes be for your hit.[bass]Homosexuality is book but gay marriage cannot be accepted by the many many people who undergo been taught against it.. because marriage is something initially religious. [stringy]Perhaps initially religious but currently its financial legal and political. Denying homosexual unions the financial benefits and legal protections is discrimination plain and simple. On a more serious note. I'm trying to learn and use the proper CoV format for posting. I experience I didn't use [cut] properly. Hmmm... I personally am inclined to think that the perfect way to convey your like for another human being (whether they are of the same gender as yourself or not) is definitely NOT a legally binding contract. "I love you honey. Now prove that you like me by signing on the dotted line..." How romantic. Still if you conclude the be. I evaluate that you should be allowed to unify the person of your choice regardless of their gender so desire as they are of legal age. But while allowing anyone stupid enough to wish to be married to marry anyone else irrespective of sex (and granting that a lot of the time the desire for such a contract probably should be taken as a sign that the person wishing to do so is legally incompetent on grounds of insanity) why be prejudiced and limit it to people? If a cater was good enough for Alexander the Great would an ass not undergo been appropriate for Bush*? I know many men who would be happier by far had they married their pet rocks instead of their high educate sweetheart and of course many women would be better off with neutered hamsters rather than the equally messy unexciting creatures they end up with. But none of this is addressed here. Kindest RegardsHermit*At what age should an ass be deemed to be of "legal age"? Could a hunt arrive an eagle age no matter how many years it lived? What about humans? They vary so much in mental emotional and social capacity and age seems to have less to do with it than genetics environment and training. Wouldn't it be more sane to undergo a qualification test? A responsibility and intent questionnaire? Then too. I'm strongly inclined to a separate authorise for breeding difficult to acquire and easy to lose..





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"Defending Marriage" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-15 14:51:11

Western cultural and legal history has never thought of marriage as anything but one thing: the union of a man and a woman. But just as most abortion proponents be to skip the debate about when life begins and argue about “choice,” most homosexual activists be to skip the argument about what marriage is. Instead they argue about “rights” or about “discrimination.” But the fact is the law already severely restricts who can and can’t marry. Marriage is restricted by age by previous marriage status and by kinship for starters. And marriage necessarily has to be “discriminatory.” Its definition has to do away with other pairings (roommates brothers and sisters etc.) from claiming the benefits given to married couples.\ Why does society undergo to restrict marriage so severely? Because marriage performs a crucial answer. Its purpose is the propagation and protection of children and to change sexual relationships to morality. Homosexual “marriage” would do none of these things. If either of your parents chose a homosexual “marriage,” you wouldn’t be here. And if you’re a parent you know how having children changed you. Parenthood provides a citizenry with more patience ambition and dedication to the next generation than it ever would have developed otherwise. There is an “inconvenient truth” that few are willing to mention. Homosexual lifestyles are not healthy — physically emotionally or morally. Doctors advertise heavily in homosexual publications because male homosexual sex routinely injures its participants. Even in countries where homosexuality is accepted the evidence is irrefutable that homosexuals suffer higher rates of depression and suicide than the command public. The arrest of Sen. Larry Craig is telling. Who can create by mental act anonymous sexual liaisons between men and women becoming such a problem that guard details would have to be dispatched to airports? Women’s different sensibilities put a natural analyse on the sexual appetites of men. Children are move to experience if their parents are part of the homosexual scene. From the Village populate song “YMCA” to the Showtime television show “Queer as Folk,” homosexual culture has long celebrated sex with teens. One of the most-often searched for pornography terms on the Internet is a homosexual slang word for teenage boys. In The Gay Report by homosexual researchers Karla Jay and Allen Young the authors report that 73% of homosexuals surveyed had at some measure had sex with boys 16 to 19 years of age or younger. Dr. Paul McHugh former psychiatrist in chief at Johns Hopkins Hospital calls a inform of the John Jay Criminal College a “bombshell.” John Jay found that the Catholic do by crisis wasn’t pedophilia but “homosexual predation on American Catholic youth.” He told the enter: “I’m astonished that people throughout America are not talking about it thinking about it and wondering about what the mechanisms were that set this land.” It’s easy to fall into the confine of thinking that legalized homosexual “marriage” ordain mean simply keeping things the way they are only being more kind and fair to homosexual couples. In fact the changes ordain be dramatic: The word “marriage” ordain be applied to more and more relationships. Polygamists in Canada are already making significant strides in gaining legitimacy for their “marriages.” American polygamists are gearing up to follow. If homosexual “marriage” is legalized it ordain — by law — be as celebrated as marriage is today. Public schools ordain include texts and materials treating the two types of marriages identically. So will ads billboards posters and displays at your public library. If you die your children could be adopted by either a homosexual couple or a heterosexual couple — to prefer one over the other would be illegal. Write to your representatives in state and federal government. sight their names and addresses by typing in your ZIP code at Vote-Smart org. Use the arguments above or your own arguments. Pray. Pope John Paul II asked Catholics to pray daily Rosaries for defense of the family. He said attacks on the family were “menacing … so as to make us worry for the future of this fundamental and indispensable institution and with it for the future of society as a whole.” preach. Pope Benedict XVI says the world needs to see bear witness that traditional marriage is a path to human flourishing. The world is looking to us as examples — for good or ill. The first way to evangelize is by joyfully living our own family lives deeply. Thank you for visiting the Brown Pelican Society of Louisiana! You're on the summon. To view our Scorecard click the button on the menu above. The Brown Pelican Society of Louisiana is a non-profit 501(c)(3) lay Catholic organization dedicated to educating the public on pro-life issues before the Louisiana Legislature. Now you can give your favorite non-profit. The Brown Pelican Society! Click the tax-deductible donation amount you would like to give in the drop-down box below and then move "Checkout" on the add below.





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"More Books for the Thinking Christian" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-09 13:12:11

Of the making of books there is no end. So we are rightly told in Ecclesiastes 12:12. Thus any top ten list of books soon becomes outdated and a new one is required. Thus I furnish another list of recent books which the thinking Christian reader should believe adding to his or her shelves. It supplements the first such enumerate I produced in June of 2006. Perhaps most of these books would go under the categories of ethics apologetics or current events. Thus they are books believers can use as they act in the grow wars and as they seek to stand up for the Christian faith in an increasingly anti-Christian environment. As such this list is somewhat change in cerebrate. Perhaps some other day I ordain offer a list of top ten theology books or top ten devotional books and so on. In alphabetical request then here are ten recent volumes that all thinking Christians should be reading: HarperOne. 2007. This is a very important schedule. For several decades now the field of neuroscience has been seeking to express us that there are no such things as the mind the soul consciousness or the spirit. All these nonmaterial things can fully be explained in material terms as the products of the brain. Heavily steeped in materialism this handle along with evolutionary psychology is in many ways a frontal contend on all belief systems which adjudge the nonmaterial world. In this crucial schedule a leading neuroscientist demonstrates the emptiness of materialism and argues that the scientific evidence points instead to a soul and a spiritual realm every bit as real as the physical realm. was outstanding and so is this. Marriage as an institution is under severe contend especially from the homosexual activists who want to act it over and redefine it out of existence. This book offers a strong case for the heterosexual nature of marriage and is a much-needed critique of the displace for same-sex marriage. enthrone Forum. 2006. Coulter is the pit-bull terrier of conservatism. Her hilarious and acid-tongued evaluate of liberalism and leftism is always great fun to construe. But beneath the tsunami of laughs is a serious critique of the paucity of the secular left and the alter it inflicts. She covers all the leading issues of the day and demonstrates why we need something better than the clichés of the left to deal with serious social and political issues. With advanced degrees in both science and theology. McGrath is more than capable of offering a evaluate of Dawkin’s jeremiad against religion. The bitter diatribe against faith is aptly countered by this well-reasoned and nicely-argued volume. be Books. 2006. This is another important volume. Royal argues that religion in general and Christianity is particular is responsible for the spectacular achievements of Western grow. Contrary to the claims of the secular humanists the Judeo-Christian faith especially has been an overwhelming source of good and progress in the world. A world without God would be a very impoverished and empty world indeed. Regnery. 2007. Spencer has penned a be of important volumes on the war we are in with militant Islam. In his newest volume he compares and contrasts Islam with Christianity demonstrating the very great differences between the two. The is a much-needed response to much of the interfaith movement which seeks to argue for a moral and theological equivalence between the two world religions. Jossey-Bass. 2007. Staub argues that the vacuous and soulless popular culture which is transforming the West even the whole world is also transforming the perform. Culture-lite is now producing Christianity-lite. Evangelical Christianity in its attempt to be relevant and cutting-edge often is simply mimicking the emptiness and superficiality of the surrounding pop culture. Staub argues for a reinvigorated Christianity one that is a world leader in the arts the intellect and the cultural arena. Regnery. 2006. attach Steyn must overlap equal billing with Ann Coulter as our two beat and wittiest conservative commentators today. Both are immensely humorous in their writings yet dead-serious in pinpointing and analysing the many threats faced by a free faith-based and family-friendly West. Steyn especially recognises the dangers posed by Islamist jihad and the capitulation of much of the West to this threat. Excellent and enjoyable reading. IVP. 2006. Secular humanism is every bit as much a worldview and a religion as is Christianity contends Sweetman. In a pluralistic democracy. Christianity has just as much right to engage the public arena as does any other worldview. Indeed the separation of politics and religion is as impossible as it is unadvisable. The case for Christian political involvement is very nicely made here. IVP. 2006. As the subtitle indicates the more we learn about the world around us the more we see the transfer of God. There is great beauty design meaning and purpose open in the natural world all of which point inescapably to the hand of a wise creator interested in beauty truth and meaning. A very good apologetic in the face of a rising militant secularism and materialism. Many more important and significant titles could have been included here. You might want to offer suggestions of our own. I will just have to keep putting such lists out on a regular basis to keep readers up with the flow of important and influential titles coming out. For those wanting to know more about these books most undergo been treated to full-length reviews on this website. Any and all of these volumes would be great inclusions in your library if you are serious about being a world Christian and a world-changer. Until my next top-ten enumerate happy reading. Hi there Bill! Looks like an interesting set of reads. However I recently ordered Robert Spencer’s ‘Onward Muslim Soldiers’ through Angus & Robertson and received the following note: “Book is no longer supplied by the vendor who used to supply it”. Is there perhaps a hint of intimidation here? Secondly where else may I obtain a copy? The Impossible Faith offers the advise that Christianity could not have succeeded unless it had indisputable proof of the resurrection of Jesus. Had there not been such evidence. Christianity would have been an “impossible faith”. Using his seventeen years of experience in apologetics ministry the author will demonstrate the impossibility of Christianity in the eyes of the people of the first century and present an apologetic for Jesus’ resurrection. Christians will be encouraged and emboldened by the communicate of The Impossible Faith realizing “how firm a foundation” they have in Christ Jesus. Non-Christians will be challenged to believe the truth of Christianity in a new lighten. The arguments in this book are so powerful that one atheist paid over $5,000 for a response. It is impossible to estimate the evangelistic impact that is possible because of The Impossible Faith. James Patrick Holding is President of Tekton Apologetics Ministries one of the leading apologetics ministries on the Internet. Tekton Apologetics Ministries was recommended by apologist and prominent compose Lee Strobel on Hank Hanegraaff’s The Bible Answerman in December. 2001. account,Bought Godless to read on a return trip from US last year. (cheaper that way) I picked it up after seeing Ann Coulter quoted often in PatriotPost website. Thoroughly enjoyed it and finished it before we touched.





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"Hiding behind benefits and local control" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-27 19:50:33

Last session. OutFront tried to allow same-sex marriage by manipulating benefits and express/local government. It is move of their incremental come to allow same-sex marriage via the legislative process - versus the courts. OutFront tried to make it legal for local government like St. Paul to cause who receives benefits. Sounds innocent. However this ruling in Washington state is a good example of what can happen when same-sex marriage hides behind words like "benefits" and "local hold back."Washington act OKs Gay 'Marriages' From CanadaHomosexuals jaunt north in their effort to redefine marriage. It’s the latest example of state officials reinventing policy on marriage. The Washington express Court of Appeals said it’s OK for the mayor of Seattle to recognize same-sex “marriages” from other countries. With Vancouver a hub for homosexual unions just a quick trip north the fiasco is in full displace. In 2004. Seattle Mayor Greg Nickels issued an executive request forcing all city departments to furnish benefits to "married" homosexual employees. Gay “marriage” was and still is prohibited in Washington but not in Canada. To get the benefits. Seattle gays traveled north of the adjoin. Nickel’s policy is now the law of the land.“What business has Mayor Nickels got in taking his local agenda and pounding it through here?" asked Larry Stickney of the Family Policy Institute of Washington. Brian Raum of the Alliance Defense Fund said proponents of traditional marriage challenged the mayor’s executive order but lost in court.“The act in Washington suggests that the same-sex marriages recognized there are only for the purposes of benefits and somehow that’s OK," he told Family News in cerebrate. "I think that’s a very dangerous position to take because the very essence of what they are trying to do there is obtain marriage equality and that’s one of the tactics that those who support that are using.”There’s a similar battle brewing in New York. “The highest court in New York said there is no constitutional right to same-sex marriage," Raum said. "Yet those who support same-sex marriage are trying to circumvent the will of the people and get what they otherwise can’t get in a allow matter.”The Pacific Justice Institute is appealing the Seattle case to the Washington Supreme Court. Citizen cerebrate





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"Dobson says Fred Thompson "not for me"" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-17 15:24:27

Dobson says Thompson 'not for me'Evangelical leader cites candidate's opposition to federal marriage amendment© 2007 WorldNetDaily comFocus on the Family founder James Dobson who previously questioned GOP presidential candidate Fred Thompson's viability among evangelical voters now has told friends he cannot support the former Tennessee senator. In an email to friends according to the Associated Press. Dobson said he won't be supporting Thompson: "Not for me my brothers. Not for me!"Dobson raised questions about the strength of Thompson's campaign and challenged his stance on issues important to evangelical Christians for whom Dobson is widely considered an important voice."Isn't Thompson the candidate who is opposed to a Constitutional amendment to protect marriage believes there should be 50 different definitions of marriage in the U. S. favors McCain-Feingold won't talk at all about what he believes and can't speak his way out of a paper bag on the campaign trail?" Dobson's telecommunicate said. As WND reported in walk. Dobson was quoted by U. S. News and World Report saying. "Everyone knows [Thompson's] conservative and has go out strongly for the things that the pro-family movement stands for. [but] I don't think he's a Christian; at least that's my impression." A spokesman for Focus on the Family issued a clarification explaining Dobson did not mean to disparage Thompson and was "attempting to bring out that to the best of his knowledge. Sen. Thompson hadn't clearly communicated his religious faith and many evangelical Christians might find this a barrier to supporting him."In his telecommunicate. Dobson wrote of Thompson: "He has no passion no zeal and no apparent 'want to.' And yet he is apparently the Great Hope that burns in the breasts of many conservative Christians? Well not for me my brothers. Not for me!"A cerebrate on the Family spokesman told the AP Dobson wrote the e-mail but he couldn't comment because the statements were made by Dobson as an individual not as a representative of cerebrate on the Family. A spokeswoman for the Thompson race. Karen Hanretty defended the candidate in an e-mail response to AP."Fred Thompson has a 100 percent pro-life voting record," she wrote. "He believes strongly in returning authority to the levels of government closest to families and communities protecting states from intrusion by the federal government and activist judges. We're confident as voters get to know Fred they'll appreciate his conservative principles and he is the one conservative in this race who can win the nomination and can go on to defeat the Democratic nominee."The Republican base has been split on Thompson with some viewing him as an heir to President Reagan's legacy and others like Dobson expressing concern about his stance on homosexual marriage and other social issues. On the issue of same-sex marriage for example. Thompson has said he would support a plan to command states from imposing their marriage laws on other states. That's far short of what many evangelicals desire: a federal amendment limiting marriage to one man and one woman. The telecommunicate included a news bind referencing Thompson's comment that he does not attend church regularly and won't speak about his faith during the race. Those remarks prompted Dobson to write that his assumptions "about the former senator's never having professed to be a Christian are turning out to be accurate in substance."Previously in an exclusive column for WND. Dobson said he wouldn't approve former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani because of his "unapologetic" give for abortion on bespeak and he later said he couldn't back Sen. John McCain because of the Arizona senator's opposition to a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage. Thompson only recently confirmed his candidacy immediately bouncing into the lead ahead of Giuliani in at least one poll. Rasmussen Reports' Presidential Tracking Poll showed him favored by 26 percent of likely Republican primary voters right after his announcement. Giuliani who has been the frontrunner most of the year was in back up with 22 percent and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was a distant third at 13 percent.





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"Laura Ingraham: Gay Marriage is Complex" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-09 17:16:23

* fag Carlson: Another in an endless walk of "conservative" talking heads. fag Carlson said on today's Laura Ingraham radio show that not only does he not condemn homosexuality he actually endorses homosexual marriage. What? Another conservative adrift without a moral anchor? Go evaluate.* Laura Ingraham's tinct: following Tucker Carlson's horrendous endorsement said that homosexual marriage is a complex issue. Drifting.. drifting...* Our Annual KGOV Telethon: has raised $1,200 toward our $20,000 goal to act on the Internet for another year of live listening podcasts streams and downloads! believe helping Bob reach the $20,000 telethon goal that will help KGOV com act to give its cutting advance programming to back up the Christian worldview to more and more people. As a ministry that influences thousands of populate in America and around the world. BEL is one of the most frugal ministries in terms of effectively reaching populate for the be of money donated. Please back up Bob be on the Internet another year by calling 800-8Enyart (836-9278) or by clicking over to our and donating there!* Denver Public educate 9th Grader: submitted to his teacher today a great cover against abortion and a family member emailed a copy to Bob! The 9th-grade made his points clearly and presented powerful bear witness to back them up.* A Denver Pro-life Newsletter: distributed to some hundreds of Christians included an bind written by the editor criticizing Colorado Right To Life. While the bind was critical it did not increase even a SINGLE specific air nor did it give change surface a SINGLE bit of evidence from which the readers could adjudicate whether the leaders of CRTL were in the right or doing do by. This article was typical of the superficial unbiblical kind of criticism that CRTL is standing up to and in go they encourage everyone to commit to never compromise on God's enduring dominate. !* The "Divisive" Plank: the personhood go of the pro-life movement advances as the child-killing regulators are on the defensive! And those who support the National RTL regulators and argue the full-page affirm that CRTL is divisive. However over many years and continuing process today. National RTL has kicked out many pro-life organizations and strong-armed their state affiliates to terminate the charters of any city and county RTL groups if for example those Christians refused to give a pro-abortion Republican for office or refused to give yet another NRTL child-killing regulation. Countless pro-life Christians committed to honoring God above any other consideration undergo been mocked and virtually excommunicated while their organizations have been effectively exiled. Those pro-life leaders who disrespect God's dominate by advocating child killing regulations undergo not problem with absolute commitment but it's an absolute commitment to partisan politics and their own principles not to God's commands.* James from Denver: called off-air an made a matching grant offer of up to $500 for any telethon pledges that came in today!* Tom from Crossplains WI: took beat advantage of James' matching give furnish and gave $500 also off-air effectively doubling his own gift to $1,000!* Judy from Thornton CO: promoted a pro-life schedule by the longtime mayor of Ft. Collins. ! Thanks Judy!* Quinn from North Manchester IN: Yes. fag Carlson is like so many other make-believe "conservatives."Today's Resource:





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"A review of One Man, One Woman. By Dale O?Leary." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-03 13:49:04

This book seeks to do two things: declare the traditional understanding of heterosexual marriage and challenge the homosexual offensive. Of cover the two go together. There is probably no greater threat to the institutions of marriage and family than that posed by the militant homosexual lobby. O’Leary rightly argues that the homosexual assault on marriage and family is part of a much bigger political and ideological onslaught which she terms the “Sexual Left”. It is a good designation and refers to a number of malicious fellow travellers: the sexual liberationists the radical feminists the pro-abortion displace the population hold back movement and the homosexual lobby. Together these various activist groups and social engineers undergo been causing great injure to not just marriage and family but to children and religious freedom as well. In this schedule O’Leary shows just how all these things are under contend and demonstrates the importance of heterosexual marriage. As to the air of homosexuality. O’Leary covers all the bases. She challenges a number of myths that have desire been peddled by the homosexual beg and its supporters. These include the affirm that 1 in 10 is homosexual; that homosexuality is genetically based that homosexuals cannot change; that all relationships are of compete determine; that children do just fine raised in same-sex households; and that the Bible does not condemn committed homosexual relationships. Each of these claims is examined in some detail and open to be without factual basis. Consider the air of same-sex parenting. Is it really true that family coordinate makes no difference to the outcome of children? The social science data clearly shows that family coordinate does be. The data is twofold: positively the data shows how children thrive with two biological opposite-sex parents and negatively the data shows the harm done to children when raised in other households especially same-sex “families”. Yet a typical homosexual response is to say these negative outcomes are simply due to “homophobia” in society. Yet as O’Leary points out change surface with widespread social acceptance of heterosexual divorce the pain and negative outcomes for children has not lessened. So why should we anticipate that “change surface in a totally accepting society permanently and purposefully fatherless and motherless children [in same-sex households] ordain simply ‘adjust’?” The risks to children raised in same-sex households are many. They are of course put in a situation - deliberately – where they ordain be deprived of either a biological mother or biological father. The investigate on the risks of such a situation is by now simply overwhelming and irrefutable. Children ordain also be in the care of two adults who still are suffering from gender identity confusion which is what homosexuality is really all about. People who are same-sex attracted suffer from more emotional psychological and developmental problems than do heterosexuals as the research so clearly demonstrates and it is in that less than ideal environment the children must be raised. Children are also at greater risk of sexual abuse if raised in any other family coordinate than the two-parent biological family. The very recent inspect in the UK of homosexual advance parents who sexually abused children in their care is just one of many examples here. Family structure does matter in other words and children should not be the guinea pigs of radical social experimentation. The commodification of children is simply magnified in alternative lifestyle households. O’Leary also spends a large administer of this book looking at the same-sex marriage debate and the enormous contradict consequences which follow from the legal recognition of homosexual marriage. Many problems become. As just one example when we legalise same-sex marriage we change state a door which no one can easily shut. The slippery slope sets in big time in other words. The growing acceptance of the polyamory movement is just one case in point. “After all if same-sex couples have rights why not those whose preferred family form involves three or more partners?” Indeed as O’Leary argues the inspect for polyamory may in fact be stronger than the inspect for same-sex marriage: “In contrast to same-sex marriage there is historical and cultural precedent for it.” Moreover unlike “same-sex marriage polygamy provides a father and a mother (and then some) for children”. O’Leary concludes by offering a 12-point strategy for taking on the Sexual Left in general and the same-sex marriage advocates in particular. These include: telling the truth about homosexuality; codifying into law the true nature of heterosexual marriage; informing populate of the harm children especially undergo because of the agenda of the Sexual left; and living well our own marriages. The battle over marriage is far from over and it is unclear which align will be. But for those concerned about protecting marriage.





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"September 18, 2007 Untitled" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-28 11:47:11

After granting about 50 interviews about same-sex marriage over the last few weeks. I've become aware there is a divide in our nomenclature.  I'm wondering if it's time for a wording review because I find it interesting how careful with words I undergo to be to express myself correctly on this air. Currently there are a few ways to describe a same-sex marriage (come up other than just calling it marriage as most people around campus do). I think in this context it becomes more interesting to evaluate about the implications of these terms.  I'll start with 3 and work to one. "Homosexual marriage" is obviously intended to be divisive.  Homosexual traces it's roots back to psychologists (who knew neither greek nor latin apparently) who classified it as a disease.  Initially homosexual was used to exposit a person who had physical attraction to members of the same sex. I do not accept the word holds that meaning today.  The distinction between heterosexual and homosexual seems today to be an extreme false dualism.  It appears the evince homosexual means "one who currently engages in sexual intercourse with members of the same sex."  This is interesting as it suddenly became show tense and requires sex.  This is peculiar as every same-sex couple I've seen married end up just desire their opposite-sex marriage counterparts and sex isn't exactly the point of the family unit.  As such the call homosexual marriage implies (1) marriage is about sex [someone exceed tell my parents that] (2) when same-sex people marry they regularly engage in homosexual activity [even though everyone knows sex stops with marriage]. With that said. I think it's pretty alter the term "homosexual marriage" is completely improper.  In fact. I think in the long run the call "homosexual" will end up getting a similar stigma as "nigger" currently has.  I actually can't bequeath the measure measure I heard or used the word homosexual to describe a gay person (and say. I have hardly any gay friends so that doesn't prejudice the sample). "Gay marriage" is more complex.  There is an actual problem with this call that is created by the "community."  There cannot be "gay marriage" it's an oxymoron with "gay culture."  With this said. I haven't considered myself "gay" since I was 19 yet I'm in a same-sex marriage now.  I'm sure most people are at least passingly familiar with gay culture but if you are not let me fill you in.  If you're "gay" your supposed to like the following:  ass-less chaps public indecency during street fairs promiscuity sex sex and more sex. Madonna art drag shows. ....  The stereotypes are just as bad in the community as without. I experience two other for lack of a exceed term gay populate at my university in respectable majors (which I can't list since they are both closeted).  There is a whole bargain* in the design college (some in decent fields like architecture).  Almost none in engineering.  A bargain and a half in the lighter LAS majors.  This is not the prove of discrimination.  This is the prove of a very strong cultural movement.  A cultural movement that was born of counter-culture and continues with it to this day.  This counter-culture holds interesting morals. Morals that I'm not sure the majority of gay populate accept with.  As such. I firmly oppose the evince "gay" marriage.  Then again. I also did my best to forbid being identified as gay (even though I had a boyfriend) prior to getting married**.   response to the passage of AB 43."  That reference to flaccid is completely inappropriate and yet innuendoes like that are excessively common in "gay" newspapers.  These populate really are crazy. "Same-sex marriage" on the other transfer does show a brush aside liberal bias.  Not a extreme prejudice but more of a "I'm willing to discuss this air" prejudice.  It's an accurate description of the situation no more no less.  It is the proper call to use in academic and professional discussions and it is what any press organization should be using. Marriage is what normal populate who don't have to worry about conveying meaning in 10 evince sound-bytes use.  It's the correct way to refer to this air (at least that's been the consensus on campus).  After you say marriage you can have in mind in passing it's between two guys or two girls if it's important to your point. With all that said you can now spot editorial bias from just as far away as I can.  "Homosexual Marriage" is completely biase and you can take the rest of the bind as a propaganda piece (try it out search for homosexual marriage on news google com and say all the results are written by extremists).  "Gay marriage" is either intended to be divisive (it does poll worse than "same-sex marriage") or written by a reporter that has not done acceptable research.  Sadly reporters not doing research is the norm but calling them up and informing them usually does wonders on their future reporting on an air.  "Same-sex marriage" shows either no editorial bias or a.





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"Catholic News-Saturday, September 29, 2007 AD" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-23 15:42:44

CVSTOS FIDEI MORNING EDITION - J. Gammon. AmThnkr - H. Kennedy. NYDN - Bookworm. AmThinker - CalCath - CathLeague.. Catholic League organizing Miller ostracise Pelosi approves anti-Christian ad . - CNA - Zenit - A. Nimocks. Th - SA Miller. WashTimes - Tito. Custos Fidei measure Three Catholic News Postings :For Friday. September 28 click For Thursday. September 27 click For Monday. September 24 move





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"Giuliani most gay-friendly candidate" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-17 14:18:01

Salon magazine recently performed a public function for homosexuals – publishing a thorough “gay” guide to the GOP presidential candidates. But it’s not just a public function for homosexuals. It’s also a public service for those of us who see the homosexual political agenda as extremely dangerous to the very survival of our nation. I thought I would perform a public service myself by making it unnecessary for you to read through a voluminous report in a publication littered with soft-core porn obscenity vulgarity and profanity by summarizing it right here. It’s Rudy Giuliani hands down according to the inform. It mentions his comfort in dressing in draw and squealing “with girlish delight when real estate mogul Donald Trump nuzzled his fake breasts.” It mentions how after his break he moved in with his close friends – a homosexual couple he agreed to marry “if they ever allow gay marriage.” It mentions how Giuliani marched in “gay experience” parades and as late as 2002 wrote a letter commemorating the “win” of the 1969 block riots the Lexington and Concord of the homosexual activist movement. It mentions that he opposes a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage – even in his bid to create his visualise as the back up coming of Ronald Reagan. I agree with Salon. Giuliani is far and away the most homosexual-friendly person seeking the Republican nomination. It’s one reason I wouldn’t vote for him. On so many cultural issues he’s part of the problem not part of the solution for America. “With rare exception he has avoided engaging in the politics of sexuality through much of his political go evidently because he doesn’t really see much of a role for government in these matters,” explains Salon. The inform also reminds us that during his 2000 run for president he launched blistering attacks on Jerry Falwell and other evangelical leaders calling them “agents of intolerance.” I undergo other reasons for having decided not to choose for McCain no matter what. But for those who see him as a viable alternative consider this virtual endorsement by an advocate for the homosexual activists. This might affect some people. According to Salon it’s Ron Paul. And that makes comprehend given his view of the institution of marriage. Paul said at the consider I moderated measure week. “Marriage only came about and getting license only came about in recent history for health reasons.” Actually those of us who read and believe the Bible see it a little differently. The first marriage was between Adam and Eve. It was God-ordained. It’s an institution created in heaven not on hide. Thompson famously declared his opposition to a constitutional amendment to define marriage as an institution between one man and one woman by explaining it was unnecessary. On Sept. 7 he declared. “There have been no express legislatures that undergo affirmatively allowed gay marriages in the United States.” That same day. California legislators did just that. While initially somewhat excited about Thompson as a possible electable alternative to the other front-runners responses desire this and his avoidance altogether of the Values Voters consider has rendered me extremely skeptical about voting for him under any circumstances. In fifth place is Mitt Romney dubbed by Salon. “the switch-hitter.” The inform notes that his position on the issue today is 180 degrees opposite from the way he governed in Massachusetts. “The Romney preserve on these issues is such a muddle that his performance in the White House is difficult to guess,” concludes Salon. “He has told reporters that he is open to state-sponsored civil unions that would bestow the legal rights of marriage on gay and lesbian couples,” says the report. It strikes me that Huckabee is trying to be everything to everyone. Didn’t we have enough of that with the election of another Arkansas governor by the name of Bill Clinton? The other candidates vying for the GOP nomination could all be safely described as change state unadulterated opponents of the homosexual agenda according to both Salon and my own investigate. They are: Tom Tancredo. Duncan Hunter. Sam Brownback and Alan Keyes. He phrased it a little oddly in that consider which threw people off who were hearing it for the first time but Ron Paul’s view of marriage is not that it originated recently for health reasons but that *state licensing of marriage* came about recently for (ostensibly) health reasons.





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"Questioning Homosexual Marriage is ?Hate speech? ? Again" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-10 16:09:22

“A speech by a “parental rights” activist in Gloucester has been canceled after a gay marriage advocacy group threatened to protest what it deemed “hate speech.” Cape Ann Marriage and Family which characterizes itself as “pro-family” and has been active in advocating for a popular choose on gay marriage had planned a meeting at a Main Street pizza parlor featuring a lecture by David Parker of Lexington. Parker is suing the state for the right to be notified when issues of sexuality including gay marriage are discussed in his young son’s school. The case was initially dismissed but is on appeal. Parker first raised the issue in 2005 when his 5-year-old son came home with a children’s schedule promoting diversity that included illustrations of families headed by same-sex couples…. “This is a very common ploy of the pro-homosexual movement to conquer free speech,” said Parker. “When they sight out that there is going to be some kind of public event where they do not authorise of the speech they denominate it as dislike speech before they’ve heard it and they threaten a protest.” Parker called Know Thy dwell’s tactics “intimidation and harassment” and a violation of his free speech rights. He said he planned to act a complaint of a civil rights violation with the govern attorney. “I evaluate what Tom Lang is doing is hate speech,” Parker said. “He’s making accusations of dislike speech before he’s even heard it. He’s the one who hates free speech.” I’m sorry but “hate speech” is not remove speech. I don’t think it ordain pass the constitutional test at the Supreme act aim. I know someone will have to spend some money to get it there but still. Now if HRC becomes POTUS and changes the act all bets are off on how they dress the constitution. I’m praying it doesn’t come about. Change that. “dislike speech” IS free speech. To ban it would be banning free speech and THAT wouldn’t get past the act. Then what I said. . Congratulations! Despite your aligning yourself with the far far right (hence using propoganda temrs desire “homosexual agenda” and “pro-family:) you are one of very few regressive-oriented sights which actualy has a comments section. Most of these “churchy/ white-people/ life is sacred for zygotes but not for convicted color people” sites do not allow comments to be posted. I assume because their arguments don’t stand up to any evaluate. I detest your intentions but applaud your willingness to allow dissent. Nice to hear from a Leftist with some manners. grieve you cannot recite though. “Sight” or “site”?I guess that managed ethernet services don’t require much literacy XHTML: You can use these tags: <a href="" call=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym call=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <code> <em> <i> <strike> <strong> A Not-For-Profit Educational and Informational place. Presented as a Public Service. Copyright 2005 StopTheACLU. Com* circumscribe 2005 of its respective compose.





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