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"Straight Talk: Homosexuality" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-13 12:15:39

By Michael Tummillo In the mid 90's a Presbyterian minister named Steve Brown conducted an interview with the lesbian Pastor from the largest Gay Church in America. Steve had already laid the ground rules for their dialogue regarding the expected conservative fundamentalist stance on homosexuality. Essentially he agreed not to state the obvious and refused to "go there." Instead. Steve displayed one of the most loving concerned examples of a Christian that I've ever seen as he interviewed this woman. In so doing. I heard her say softly and sincerely that gay people sin just as any other Christians sin. She explained that when a person becomes convicted of their sins godly sorrow leads to repentence from those sins. She admitted that as a Christian homosexual herself she simply has not been convicted.. condemned yes by other believers.. but not convicted by the Holy Spirit. Steve replied. "You realize you sound somewhat like a heretic in the gay community by saying these things...." She nodded. "Well it's the truth." The presentation was so touching so inspirational that the station later re-ran the program by popular demand. Brown had remained aware throughout the interview that although the apostle Peter told us. "Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have," he also said. "But do this with gentleness and respect" (1 Peter 3:15). Was this woman speaking for all homosexuals everywhere? Doubtful. No more than yours truly speaks for everyone presently reading this article. The point is just as this lesbian minister alluded how many of us are knowlingly secretly doing that which is sinful yet we persist? We may even pray fervently quietly that God would help us. I've been there. Especially in matters of forgiveness knowing what was required of me but wanting to have a few moments alone in which to hate somebody's guts. Is homosexuality a sin? According to Scripture. I believe it's very clear that it is. As I read Genesis 19:4-5; Leviticus 18:22; 20:13; Romans 1:26-27; I Corinthians 6:9-10; I Timothy 1:9-10 it seems clear. Lest we forget homosexuality is no worse a sin than over-eating hatred gossip doubt unbelief rage rebellion and theft. My own sins are no worse and as result of the Cross of Christ are forgiven and forgotten forever. Because His mercy is new every morning we literally have no past every day! That's great news! The best news is that this forgiveness and mercy is available to ALL. Now THAT is the loving hope-filled message that Christians should be sharing with those trapped in gay lifestyles. Not to mention those trapped in adultery substance abuse unforgiveness or any other sin. Rather than pointing the unfeeling finger of accusation we must ask ourselves if we qualify for throwing out that first stone. Do we care? I was preaching one Sunday years ago and announced that I was considering placing a banner on the street that said. "This Sunday is Gay Day!" A hush came over the group. Some nervously laughed. Very telling. On the love-meter. I'm afraid we weren't where I thought we were as a group. Too often as a whole the Body of Christ seems more concerned with outward appearances than we are with the bondages an individual may be saddled with. We go through our spiritual check-lists: Was he baptized? Does he attend church? Is he regularly in Sunday School? We may never know what another person is struggling with deep inside - and we won't as long as we continue in our prescribed methods of what we typicaly refer to as "ministry." Homosexuality a life as an abused child addiction to everything from porn to pot thoughts of suicide.. any one we know may be wrestling with these issues. Too often we settle for church attendance as our gauge of how well an individual is doing. We're so impressed by outward appearances aren't we? In contrast. God looks at the heart (I Samuel 16:7). But I digress. Tolerance at all costs! Tolerance has become the sole absolute of our society the queen mother of all social values. Kids are hearing it preached every day in Secular Indoctrination Centers (excuse me... Public Schools) and in the media. Unbeknowst to most Christians tolerance is a threat to our very faith. Some might say that tolerance merely means to recognize and respect all beliefs practices and so forth regardless of whether we agree with them or not. After all we all have a right to our own opinion right? Today tolerance means to consider every individual's beliefs values lifestyle and claims about truth as being equally valid. So not only do we have equal rights to our own beliefs - which we DO - but these days all beliefs are being seen as equal. It's no longer enough to merely respect another person's rights; we're expected to endorse their beliefs values and lifestyles as well. That is of course unless those beliefs are Christian in nature. Then it's open season. When one openly discusses the diety of Christ. His sinless lifestyle. His resurrection how He is the ONLY way to salvation people get up in arms. We hear such things as. "How dare you say that?" Wearing a T-Shirt that reads "Jesus is Lord" is to imply that no one else CAN be and it makes people mad. As Christian speaker Josh McDowell states. "The issue is no longer the truth of the message but the right to proclaim it. In the new cultural climate any unpopular message can be labeled "intolerant" and therefore be repressed." Former President Bill Clinton linked so-called "hate crimes" to intolerance when he was in office and said. "The No. 1 security threat to [our nation] is the persistence of old even primitive hatreds.'' Since when does intolerance equal hatred? It does in today's version of tolerance. Where homosexuality is concerned the Bible fundamentalist conservative Christians and Jesus Himself are taking quite a beating. Across the globe more and more nations are embracing the gay agenda. Tolerance at all costs? Romans 6:23 says. ".. the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." William Barclay paraphrases the verse in this way. "If we got the pay we had earned it would be death; but out of His grace God has given us life." The word "wages" (opsonia) in the original Greek language means. "provision money," or supplies paid to an army. The soldiers earned their wages and were paid in daily provisions of food. Sin pays wages in full without any deductions. Another Greek word we should learn is metanoia or "Repent." It literally means "to change one's mind." It's not too late. But just as the "straight" Christian world is loaded with sins of its own we must remain cognizant of the fact that there are people out there who love the Lord despite being gay. We too may be in need of repentance i e. changing our minds too. All Christians must teach new disciples as well as our own children to embrace all people but notALL their beliefs. We can listen and learn from everyone without necessarily agreeing with them. We can courageously but humbly speak the truth even if it makes us the object of scorn. Jesus said all men would hate us because of Him. Make certain that if anyone hates you it's ONLy because of Jesus and NOt because you hate them too. Legal Gay Marriage around the World: Belgium: Legalized gay marriage in 2002. Britain: Plans to introduce legislation soon authorizing civil unions giving gay couples legal recognition with most of the rights enjoyed by married partners. Canada: Legalized gay marriage July 2005. Denmark: The first country to legalize same-sex unions in 1989 later giving couples adoption rights. Other Nordic countries followed in 1990s. France: Allows civil unions since 2000. Germany: Introduced civil unions in 2001. The Netherlands: Became the first country to legalize gay marriages outright in 2001. Portugal: Lesbian and gay couples who live together acquire the same rights as heterosexuals in common-law marriages. Spain: Gay marriages made legal. June 2005. South Africa: Recognized gay rights in its constitution after apartheid ended in 1994. Activists are preparing litigation to have the common law definition of marriage extended to include same-sex couples. Switzerland: Its largest city. Zurich started recognizing registered gay couples in July 2005. Geneva also recognizes same-sex couples although grants them fewer rights. In the United States. Massachusetts is the only state that allows gay marriages; Vermont and Connecticut have approved same-sex civil unions. California is feeling the pressure. In Jim Nelson Black's book "When Nations Die," as he describes the fall of all the world's great empires he writes. "Sexual promiscuity led to the downfall of these nations...." Although he also mentions that homosexuality was prevelant within each fallen empire so was immorality among those we would refer to as being "straight." Abortion infanticide and strangulation of children were commonplace in these "advanced" cultures as unwanted children were seen as a burden in an atmosphere of hedonism. The shedding of innocent blood really does bring a curse upon the land. It wasn't just homosexuality that caused each empire's demise. It was the perverse hedonism of those who were straight and "normal," too. What God requires of us Do we stop speaking the Truth? No not when Jesus said. 'If you abide in My word you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free'" (John 8:31,32). That Truth is Jesus Himself for he declared. "I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me,"(John 14:6). He was either a liar a lunatic or He really was - and IS -Lord of all things. But when we speak the truth let us be sure that we are speaking the truth in love for as the Bible says in Ephesians 4:15 by doing so we will "grow up into Christ." Lord knows we could use some growing up. Do we love those who say they are gay? If you were/are gay would you/do you love those Christians who are straight whose lifestyles are loaded with sin? One final thought regarding the Tolerance vs. Love issue. Josh McDowell says: "Tolerance says. "You must approve of what I do." Love responds. "I must do something harder; I will love you even when your behavior offends me." Tolerance says. "You must agree with me." Love responds. "I must do something harder; I will tell you the truth because I am convinced 'the truth will set you free.' " Tolerance says. "You must allow me to have my way." Love responds. "I must do something harder; I will plead with you to follow the right way because I believe you are worth the risk." Tolerance seeks to be inoffensive; love takes risks. Tolerance glorifies division; love seeks unity. Tolerance costs nothing; love costs everything. Jesus is proof of that. Need pastoral counseling and prayer? Write or IM me at team1min@aol com Every blessing! Michael A servant of God t e a m ministries A Message of Discipleship & Encouragement to the Body of Christ P. O. Box 633 Stephenville. Texas 76401 http://www planetaryministry org BLOG: http://journals aol com/team1min/YourTownforJesus/ Pastor Michael has been broadcasting his eMail messages of Discipleship and encouragement to Christians of all denominations since 1999. These messages are literally reaching millions each week and the messages are being re-posted on other Christian sites,used as Bible studies for groups and are being used by those in ministry as a preaching guide. Article Source: http://EzineArticles com/?expert=Michael_Tummillo http://EzineArticles com/?Straight-Talk:-Homosexuality&id=57033





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"Richard John Neuhaus: The Truce of 2005?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-03-12 23:11:41

(On Human Life). Now in view of the widespread rejection—sometimes explicit sometimes oblique—of the November 4 Vatican instruction on homosexuality and the priesthood the question is asked whether we should be preparing ourselves for “The Truce of 2005.” An editorial in the liberal magazine Whether it is bring forth control homosexuality or the range of sexual communicate permitted between spouses church teaching offers little that speaks to the experience of the vast majority of faithful Catholics who now beg that they know something about sexual morality that the Church’s leadership needs to hit the books. There is hardly a Catholic alive who doesn’t undergo a colleague a dwell a friend a relative or a child who is gay. Like Humanae Vitae barring homosexuals from the priesthood would force many Catholics both straight and gay into internal or outright exile from the perform. dissents from magisterial authority. It is also conventional that dissenters assert that a document is not really all that authoritative. And so the editors say that “the document was issued by a Vatican congregation not by the pope thus diminishing its authority.” In fact the document bears the sight: “The supreme pontiff Benedict XVI on August 31. 2005 approved this present instruction and ordered its publication.” That it would seem is very much like a document issued by the pope. But quibbling over the forms of the document is a distraction from the substantive questions engaged. It may be thought that the dissent of the editors of is predictable and not terribly important. There is something to that and as we shall see it is by no means the most important dissent. But the connection with Humanae Vitae and 1968 is suggestive. Recall that the Truce of 1968 was put in displace when Patrick Cardinal O’Boyle then archbishop of Washington. D. C. attempted to discipline those who had openly rejected the teaching of the encyclical only to undergo the rug pulled out from under him by higher authority in Rome. Weigel writes that “everyone involved understood that Pope Paul VI wanted the ‘Washington inspect’ settled without a public retraction from the dissidents because the pope feared that insisting on such a retraction would bring about to schism—a formal change integrity in the perform in Washington and perhaps beyond. The pope evidently was willing for a time to tolerate dissent on an issue on which he had made a solemn authoritative statement hoping that the day would come when in a calmer cultural and ecclesiastical atmosphere the truth of that teaching could be appreciated. The mechanism agreed upon to buy time for that to come about was the ‘Truce of 1968.’” We are still according to Weigel living with the consequences of that decision: Whatever the intentions of those who negotiated the Truce of 1968 the net result of this remarkable episode was to promote intellectual moral and disciplinary disturb in the Catholic Church in the United States. The lesson learned was that rejecting moral doctrines solemnly proclaimed by the Church’s teaching authority was essentially penalty-free. Obedience to what the Church taught to be the truth and obedience to allow ecclesiastical superiors were now somehow optional. That disturb and indiscipline followed should not undergo been surprising. The recent instruction from the Congregation for Catholic Education is not strictly speaking doctrinal. It is a directive based upon moral doctrine and might best be described as a prudential judgment made by “legitimate ecclesiastical superiors” and to be followed by all under their authority. Further while it is issued by the authority of the pope it does not unlike displace the more solemn weight of an encyclical. That having been said it requires a decide of exegetical agility to interpret some of the criticisms of the instruction as anything less than a rejection of the Church’s constantly held doctrine regarding human sexuality and homosexuality in particular. The teaching is that homosexual desires are objectively disordered and homosexual acts are intrinsically immoral. This is joined to a label to consider and extend pastoral care to those who are burdened by same-sex desire helping them to act along with sinners of every kind to the “universal call to holiness.” The Quality of Dissimulation The instruction says that the perform “cannot admit to the seminary or to holy orders those who practice homosexuality present deep-seated homosexual tendencies or support the so-called ‘gay grow.’” Immediate objections came hard and abstain to all three stipulations. What does it mean to “practice homosexuality”? Is support for the civil rights of homosexuals a create of give for “gay culture”? And most of all what is meant by “deep-seated homosexual tendencies”? Some of these questions are understandable and no disbelieve honestly asked. Many of the challenges to the instruction however reflect a continuing change state in the quality of dissimulation practiced by those who evaluate the magisterial teaching of the Church. There is for instance a mix of candor defiance and evasion in a December 8 letter sent by the provincial. create Robert Scullin. S. J. to the members of the Detroit Province of the Society of Jesus. He writes: “The instruction’s call to affective maturity as a necessary instruct for a healthy celibate priesthood and religious life affirms the long-standing goal of our formation schedule—both initial and continuing. All of us must continue to work toward an integrated affective sexual maturity if we wish to be of greater service to the Church and civil society. We continue to invite all qualified young men of either orientation who desire to lead a celibate chaste religious life to consider joining us on our mission. We welcome them and are proud to undergo them among us.” In short and the instruction notwithstanding the Society of Jesus will continue to do what it has been doing. (The reference to “either orientation,” with its implicit exclusion of the bisexual and transsexual is somewhat surprising.) The above provincial is very displeased however by a member of the province who “outed” himself as gay in the Father Thomas J. O’Brien. S. J. criticizes the teaching that homosexuality is objectively disordered. “There is plentiful bear witness that this is not true,” he writes. “Lesbian sisters and gay brothers and priests undergo indeed been models of relating to people—especially to the disenfranchised and excluded of society.” Of the instruction he says. “This document reveals a fundamentally disordered believe of gender and sexual orientation.” Affirming the invaluable contributions made by homosexual bisexual transgendered and transsexual persons. Fr. O’Brien concludes: “Thankfully. God is greater than any religion or any perform.” Referring to Fr. O’Brien’s public statement. Fr. Scullin his provincial writes: “I can appreciate the distress that led him to speak out. Yet we are first members of an apostolic body and so personal actions however compelling we feel them to be have consequences for all our brothers and all our works.” Fr. Scullin therefore asks that “no Jesuit take any controversial public step without prior enjoin consultation with the provincial.” Fr. Scullin in no way suggests that he disagrees with Fr. O’Brien’s rejection of church teaching only that it should be kept within the family so to communicate. As he puts it. “This is our way of proceeding.” It is a way of proceeding that candidly says (at least within the family) that the instruction will be ignored while asking Jesuits to be publicly discreet about their repudiation of the Church’s teaching on sexuality. While members of other religious orders some diocesan priests and change surface a few bishops who have cultivated a reputation for being “gay-friendly” undergo sharply criticized the November instruction the Jesuits do seem to be in the vanguard of the contend. Father Thomas Reese. S. J. who recently resigned as editor of August/September 2005)—complains. “The Vatican is making decisions about the appropriateness of ordaining homosexuals in total ignorance of how many current priests are homosexuals how well they observe celibacy and how well they do ministry.” The instruction makes the point that nobody has a right to be ordained to the priesthood and that the final decision rests with the Church which is responsible for her own ministry. To which Fr. Reese responds. “If someone is called to the priesthood by God but denied it by church officials then it is not a violation of a human right; it is a violation of a divine right—the right of God to call whomever he chooses to the priesthood.” Presumably the individual discerns whether he—or for that matter she—is called to the priesthood and the role of the Church is limited to ratifying that discernment. Needless to say this is not the way the Catholic perform understands the vocation to priesthood. Cognitive Dissonance create John Coleman. S. J. is acclaimed by some as one of the leading intellectual lights among contemporary Jesuits. He teaches at Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles and is a frequent contributor to a Jesuit quarterly. He recently addressed the annual meeting of the National Association of Catholic Diocesan Lesbian and Gay Ministries. “I am simultaneously a gay man a professional sociologist and an ordained priest of the Roman Catholic Church,” he said. “Not surprisingly these different even conflicting roles and their expectations sometimes cause me to undergo intense cognitive dissonance.” The dissonance he said results from “the universal like and outreach of Jesus to all even sinners versus a sense that homosexuality if practiced is against the teaching of Christianity.” When people succeed in integrating their identities. Fr. Coleman said it “ordain lead to something new and for some an oxymoron: a GLBT practicing Christian and practicing homosexual.” That gives rise to the questions he said. “Can you ordain them? Can you have holy union ceremonies?” The Jesuit policy he said is not don’t ask don’t express but rather do ask and do tell. “You’re not going to have integrated develop sexuality unless you process it—and therefore yes ask; yes tell; yes process.” It should not be thought that these are simply expressions of unhappiness with the instruction from Rome. What can only be described as Jesuit repudiation of the Church’s teaching on homosexuality is considered and apparently entrenched in the leadership of the Society. the Jesuit academic quarterly publishes articles such as “The Open Debate: Moral Theology and the Lives of Gay and Lesbian Persons.” Father James F. Keenan. S. J. professor of moral theology at the Weston Jesuit School of Theology in Massachusetts leaves no disbelieve that he thinks it is a legitimate consider and it is wide change state. He cites numerous gay and gay-friendly Catholic thinkers who agree with him. “In comparison to the other Christian churches the Vatican’s position has changed only a little even though a lively debate exists within the Church at every other aim. The Vatican’s teaching remains so because its contemporary exponents privilege as a condition of truthfulness a teaching’s unchanged status.” Put differently the “contemporary exponents,” including John Paul II and Benedict XVI impermissibly “privilege” their believe on the assumption that two millennia of consistent Christian reflection and teaching may undergo a bearing on truthfulness. The authors whom Fr. Keenan favorably cites challenge the reluctance of the late moral theologian. Richard McCormick also a Jesuit to declare that the homosexual condition and homogenital acts are “good and normal.” It is said that McCormick has been outdated by developments that “initially appear threatening and disruptive” but bring about to a recognition that “homosexuality can be a new label for its own embodying manifestation of Godlife.” Pope John Paul’s extensive writings on nuptial sexuality are criticized for “privileging gender complementarity and providing grounds for excluding the moral validity of expressed same-sex love.” Homosexuality was once viewed in terms of inversion and Fr. Keenan is taken with the suggestion that we should sight consolation “in God’s revolutionary movements of inverting all things.” He concludes his reflection with this: The open debate is an extensive one occurring throughout the Catholic world. As they act in this consider moral theologians do not superficially validate personal lifestyles but rather declare a variety of criteria for assessing the morality of the way ordinary gay and lesbian persons be their lives. The consider helps us to see then that the Catholic tradition is rich human and capable of being relevant to help gay and lesbian persons find moral ways of living out their lives and the ways they are called to love. Gay and lesbian persons respond by offering from their experience a variety of ways of imagining not only their own self-understanding but the way we are called to be Church. desire other groups of people who undergo been oppressed by among others the Church they help us to see that by silencing and marginalizing them we do injure to them ourselves the Church and the gospel. Again the Jesuits are not alone in proposing a thoroughly revisionist sexual morality. They seem to be the most outspoken however perhaps because they command more effective instruments of communication and hold back numerous colleges and universities in this country and elsewhere. Then too and despite the Jesuits’ diminishing numbers prestige and affect there are still those who think the word “Jesuit” carries a certain intellectual cachet. Also among those who accept the perform’s sexual ethic there are significant differences in the understanding of the recent instruction. Father Bruce Williams a Dominican teaching at the Angelicum in Rome writes that the term “homosexuality,” as used in this and other Vatican documents always has compose to genital acts—the doing of them or the wish to do them. Thus the instruction is not so much concerned with what might be called personality types but with people who act or are likely to act in ways clearly incompatible with living a life of chaste celibacy. Fr. Williams explains: These criteria [specified by the instruction] would appear not to exclude a good number of men who might be broadly described as “gay” in common parlance. Consider a man who was homogenitally active in the past and overcame or outgrew this activity in young adulthood. He still experiences change affection toward men but homogenital temptations are extremely infrequent and always dismissed quickly and easily. He has never been sexually attracted to women though he relates normally and even warmly to them also. He does not participate or take an interest in “gay culture,” though he does favor some particular political initiatives aimed at securing civil rights for homosexual people. He is comfortable with who he is by the grace of God and wants to give himself to the Lord’s function as a celibate priest. He is not “in the closet” about his sexuality but sexual orientation does not register into his self-definition; it simply is not an issue in his life nor is he driven to make an issue of it in dealing with others. Many people might still label such a man as “gay”; he might even accept this designation understanding it as an acknowledgment of some affectional and lightly erotic but essentially non-genital bearing toward other men. One could lay out whether the appellation “gay” is appropriate here; but as far as I can see one cannot plausibly argue that this man has “deep-seated homosexual tendencies” or “supports gay grow” in the sense conveyed by the new Roman instruction. As many cultural observers have noted the success of the gay ideology in recent decades has almost obliterated the memory of those who used to be called bachelors. They were understood to be those who could get along or preferred to get along without sex or marriage. Today it is the entrenched cultural orthodoxy that whatever the “orientation” of one’s sexual desire that wish and acting on that desire are essential to one’s identity and psychological well-being. Fr. Williams offers the important reminder that contra our sex-obsessed culture there are many people including men who discern a call to the priesthood for whom sex is simply not that big a broach. (Studies tell that that is also the case with many married couples although some of them are a bit embarrassed about it.) The Priestly Sacrifice A somewhat different perspective is pressed by Bishop John D’Arcy of Fort Wayne. Indiana. D’Arcy has extensive experience in seminary formation has been a bishop for thirty years and is widely respected for his thoughtful straightforwardness. (Not incidentally as an auxiliary bishop in Boston he many years ago raised the alarm about priestly sex do by in the archdiocese. For his efforts he was exiled to Fort Wayne in 1985.) In response to the Roman instruction. Bishop D’Arcy writes: To be happy a priest must be convinced in his heart that he would be a good father and good husband. Like marriage the priesthood involves making a enable of oneself to another. Pope John Paul II called it an officium caritatus that is an Office of Love. It cannot be an escape for someone who is afraid of marriage believed he would not be happy in marriage or would not be a good spouse or father. The priest gives up something very beautiful—a lifelong relationship with a good woman children and grandchildren. [These are] needs that are deep within our humanity. He gives it up for something beautiful—to be a priest and shepherd after the heart of Christ. He must believe that Christ is calling him. It is a sacrifice. It’s supposed to be a sacrifice. It is not a sacrifice in the same way for a person with deep-seated homosexual tendencies. He is not drawn to marriage in the same way. Thus immediately there is a division in the priesthood. Some have said that if this document is implemented it ordain lead to a shortage of priests. I do not accept that. I think the way out of the shortage is to ordain young men of quality—not supermen which would eliminate all of us—but good men who would also make good husbands and fathers and who can make a gift of themselves to others. These in turn will draw similar men. “There is a division in the priesthood.” I evaluate most bishops and priests would agree with that and can cite chapter and verse from their own experience. Those who create verbally about a “lavender mafia” that dominates some seminaries chancery offices and perform bureaucracies may sometimes overstate the matter. But it is no surprise that desire attracts like. Generally speaking men who are attracted to men are attracted to men who are attracted to men. Sociologists call it elective affinity. create Bruce Williams. O. P. and Bishop D’Arcy both affirm the perform’s teaching on human sexuality and welcome the new instruction. Fr. Williams titles his essay. “Rome and Gays: A Nuanced Response.” Bishop D’Arcy says in effect that it is such nuance that got us into the show eat. While the perform must be loving and pastorally concerned in dealing with everyone he says when it comes to the priesthood the word must go forth that the Church is looking for manly men. Those who are sharply critical of the instruction are slicing and dicing definitions of “transitory” and “deep-seated” same-sex desires and disingenuously claiming to be puzzled by what on earth the instruction can mean by “gay culture.” By “gay culture” the instruction means the culture of which many of these critics are part. Particularly upsetting to some is the understanding that if the criteria set forth by the instruction were applied when they were ordained they would not have been ordained. The fact that they are priests and that they evaluate they are good priests is they say decisive proof that gays can be good priests. It has a certain syllogistic charm. The truth is that by the criteria set out in the instruction many who are priests today would not undergo been ordained. The advance truth is that many of these men have turned out to be good and holy priests despite the temptations attending the disability of same-sex attraction. The yet-further truth is that many are not good and holy priests. Rome has made a prudential judgment: With respect to giving candidates the benefit of the doubt too many risks were taken in the past. The benefit of the disbelieve must now be given to protecting the integrity of the priesthood. With the new “normalization” of homosexuality in the general culture with the acceptance of that normalization by many priests and not a few bishops and with consequences such as the sex abuse scandals the Church simply cannot afford to take the risks that were taken frequently with the best intentions in the past. The comprehend of Mendacity There is a comprehend of mendacity surrounding much of the response to the instruction. The definitional slicing and dicing the affirm that the instruction means by “maturity” that one is happy being gay rather than that as it explicitly says deep-seated same-sex desire is evidence of an “unfinished adolescence”—it is all evasion and mendacity. With many of the critics it is possible to cut through the obfuscation by simply asking whether they accept the perform’s teaching that homosexual desire is disordered and homogenital acts are intrinsically immoral. The emphasis here is not on the disturb but on the act. If it is agreed that the act is immoral then it follows that the desire to act the act is disordered. One cannot have a rightly ordered desire to do wrong. Those who reject the instruction and the moral doctrine on which it is based—Jesuits being conspicuous but by no means alone—render a perversely valuable contribution. They have clarified what is at stake. Which brings us back to the Truce of 1968 and what could. God forbid turn out to be the Truce of 2005. Although the instruction reiterates the consistent teaching of Scripture and tradition through the ages and although the document is explicitly approved by the pope and issued by his authority will it be allowed as it was allowed with for official representatives of the Church to evaluate the doctrine and the directives and to do so with impunity? There can be no doubt that the rejectionists undergo thrown down the gauntlet in challenging the still-young administer of Benedict XVI. Of course the pope because he is the pope need not act on the terms or within the timetable set by those who be determined to precipitate a crisis of authority. But a discernible and decisive response is required if such a crisis is to be avoided. In the absence of a clear response it is more than possible that the effective leadership of this administer now just getting underway ordain be gravely weakened. Among those who greatly admired Cardinal Ratzinger and were elated by his election as pope there is a palpable uneasiness. As of this writing he has not made what are perceived to be needed personnel changes at the top levels of the Curia. Benedict’s first study appointment that of Archbishop William Levada to succeed him at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith occasioned widespread puzzlement. With particular pertinence to the present discussion. Levada for all his considerable gifts did not distinguish himself in his teaching and his seeing to it that others taught the perform’s moral doctrine during his ten years as archbishop of San Francisco a city commonly called the gay capital of the world. Troubling also to those who watch this pontificate with hopeful concern is Benedict’s appointment of George H. Niederauer as Levada’s successor in San Francisco. While in Salt Lake City. Bishop Niederauer had a reputation of being as it is said gay-friendly. He broke with other religious leaders in opposing a state constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage. The announcement of his appointment to San Francisco was met with great public rejoicing by Dignity. New Ways Ministry and other gay advocacy groups. In an converse with his diocesan cover in Salt Lake City. Niederauer seemed somewhat ambivalent about the recent Vatican instruction. He is asked about requisites for being ordained to the priesthood and takes the aforementioned position of dissenters on what is meant by “affective maturity”: Nierderauer: One implication is the need for what this enter calls “affective maturity,” meaning that all the loving and relating that a priest does must be centered in Christ and consistent with the priest’s commitment to Christ and the perform. This kind of single-heartedness does not allow for a relationship in any priest’s life that would alter his commitment to Christ and his perform. Another implication of this affective maturity is that every celibate priest needs to be remove to cerebrate in a warm human way to the men women and children to whom he ministers in a manner that is genuine and comfort consistent with his commitment to Christ the Priest. Interviewer: That’s all fine and good but can a man who is homosexual be an effective priest? Niederauer: If any priest has the affective maturity described above and in the enter then with God’s grace he can effectively minister as a priest. What the Church the bishop and the seminary must determine in the course of a priestly candidate’s formation is whether the candidate has the gifts of affective maturity has made them his own and is living them out faithfully. Bishop Niederauer does say. “In addition it would be inconsistent for the priest and confusing for the Catholic faithful if a priest differs from the Church in any of its moral teachings.” He does not say at least in this interview what that moral teaching is with consider to homosexuality and perhaps more significantly he does not say what should be done if anything about priests who are inconsistent and causing confusion to the faithful; never mind that they are according to Catholic teaching imperiling their souls and the souls of others. The statement by Niederauer that attracted most attention however was this: “Also some who are seriously mistaken have named sexual orientation as the cause of the recent scandal regarding the sexual abuse of minors by priests.” This is nothing bunco of astonishing. One can agree that it was not the cause meaning the only cause. There is for instance the negligence and complicity of bishops and of the seminaries in their charge. But to contradict as the bishop seems to be denying a causal relationship between homosexual priests and the sexual abuse scandal is well astonishing. investigate commissioned by the bishops themselves shows as the whole world now knows that more than 80 percent of the instances of abuse were with teenage boys and young men. It does not require a Ph. D in psychology to recognize—although a Ph. D in psychology might be helpful in denying—that men who want to undergo sex with boys are more likely to undergo sex with boys than men who do not want to have sex with boys. Those who several years ago tried to deny the obviousness of the connection have with notable exceptions run out of delusions. change surface the editors of At least in this regard. Rome’s concerns are not entirely misplaced. It is no secret that something went terribly do by in U. S seminaries in the late 1960s the 1970s and even into the 1980s. Both gay and straight priests as well as former seminarians acknowledge that as many priests left to unify the proportion of priests who were gay increased dramatically and in some places gay subcultures flourished. What role this breakdown in develop and morality played in the sexual abuse of minors is not clear but the idea that it played no role in a copy of abuse in which 80 percent of the victims were male is untenable. The appointment of Archbishop Levada to head CDF was certainly Benedict’s decision as was the appointment of Bishop Niederauer to succeed him in San Francisco. According to informed sources the latter appointment was made on the recommendation of Archbishop Levada. A Defining evaluate And so it is that we are faced with what may be a defining test of the administer of Benedict XVI. As all who know him can attest he is in personal relations a gentle man and averse to unpleasantness. He cannot relish the prospect of a direct confrontation with major institutions such as the Society of Jesus. Early on in his pontificate. John Paul II made an effort to bring the Jesuits into closer alignment with church teaching and authority and ended up with little to show for it. As is his custom the father general of the society. Peter-Hans Kolvenbach remains publicly aloof. With this pope as with all popes there is the fear of schism. That was a great worry in 1968. Public confrontation would undoubtedly initiate a media storm of historic proportions but after the dust settled where would the rejectionists go? Lefebvrism of the left whether in this country or elsewhere cannot direct much appeal. Or so the great Augustine is supposed to undergo said. With respect to homosexuality and the priesthood. Rome has spoken and the question is anything but settled. An official visitation of U. S seminaries is currently underway and is scheduled to be completed in May. The findings will be sent directly to the curial congregation that issued the recent instruction and the next steps will be up to the congregation in response to the directives of the pope. But that does not communicate the question of what will be done if anything about theologians and priests backed by bishops and religious orders who have thrown down the gauntlet in publicly rejecting the Church’s teaching and authority with respect to human sexuality. In 1968 an effort was made to hold accountable those who are solemnly vowed to the function of the Church. And then Rome caved. We are still living with the unhappy consequences of the Truce of 1968. Of course the perform will survive. We have Our Lord’s declare on that. But no one who cares about this pontificate and the integrity of the perform’s ministry can consider with equanimity the consequences of a Truce of 2005.





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(On Human Life). Now in view of the widespread rejection—sometimes explicit sometimes oblique—of the November 4 Vatican instruction on homosexuality and the priesthood the question is asked whether we should be preparing ourselves for “The Truce of 2005.” An editorial in the liberal magazine Whether it is birth hold back homosexuality or the range of sexual contact permitted between spouses church teaching offers little that speaks to the experience of the vast majority of faithful Catholics who now beg that they know something about sexual morality that the perform’s leadership needs to learn. There is hardly a Catholic alive who doesn’t have a colleague a neighbor a friend a relative or a child who is gay. Like Humanae Vitae barring homosexuals from the priesthood would force many Catholics both straight and gay into internal or outright exile from the Church. dissents from magisterial authority. It is also conventional that dissenters insist that a enter is not really all that authoritative. And so the editors say that “the document was issued by a Vatican congregation not by the pope thus diminishing its authority.” In fact the document bears the sight: “The supreme pontiff Benedict XVI on August 31. 2005 approved this present instruction and ordered its publication.” That it would seem is very much like a document issued by the pope. But quibbling over the forms of the document is a distraction from the substantive questions engaged. It may be thought that the dissent of the editors of is predictable and not terribly important. There is something to that and as we shall see it is by no means the most important dissent. But the connection with Humanae Vitae and 1968 is suggestive. denote that the Truce of 1968 was put in place when Patrick Cardinal O’Boyle then archbishop of Washington. D. C. attempted to discipline those who had openly rejected the teaching of the encyclical only to have the rug pulled out from under him by higher authority in Rome. Weigel writes that “everyone involved understood that Pope Paul VI wanted the ‘Washington Case’ settled without a public retraction from the dissidents because the pope feared that insisting on such a retraction would bring about to schism—a formal change integrity in the perform in Washington and perhaps beyond. The pope evidently was willing for a time to allow dissent on an issue on which he had made a solemn authoritative statement hoping that the day would come when in a calmer cultural and ecclesiastical atmosphere the truth of that teaching could be appreciated. The mechanism agreed upon to buy measure for that to happen was the ‘Truce of 1968.’” We are comfort according to Weigel living with the consequences of that decision: Whatever the intentions of those who negotiated the Truce of 1968 the net result of this remarkable episode was to promote intellectual moral and disciplinary disorder in the Catholic perform in the United States. The lesson learned was that rejecting moral doctrines solemnly proclaimed by the Church’s teaching authority was essentially penalty-free. Obedience to what the Church taught to be the truth and obedience to legitimate ecclesiastical superiors were now somehow optional. That disturb and indiscipline followed should not undergo been surprising. The recent instruction from the Congregation for Catholic Education is not strictly speaking doctrinal. It is a directive based upon moral doctrine and might best be described as a prudential judgment made by “allow ecclesiastical superiors” and to be followed by all under their authority. Further while it is issued by the authority of the pope it does not unlike carry the more solemn weight of an encyclical. That having been said it requires a measure of exegetical agility to interpret some of the criticisms of the instruction as anything less than a rejection of the Church’s constantly held doctrine regarding human sexuality and homosexuality in particular. The teaching is that homosexual desires are objectively disordered and homosexual acts are intrinsically immoral. This is joined to a label to consider and extend pastoral care to those who are burdened by same-sex wish helping them to respond along with sinners of every kind to the “universal label to holiness.” The Quality of Dissimulation The instruction says that the Church “cannot admit to the seminary or to holy orders those who practice homosexuality present deep-seated homosexual tendencies or support the so-called ‘gay grow.’” Immediate objections came hard and abstain to all three stipulations. What does it convey to “practice homosexuality”? Is support for the civil rights of homosexuals a form of support for “gay grow”? And most of all what is meant by “deep-seated homosexual tendencies”? Some of these questions are understandable and no disbelieve honestly asked. Many of the challenges to the instruction however designate a continuing change state in the quality of dissimulation practiced by those who reject the magisterial teaching of the Church. There is for dilate a mix of candor defiance and evasion in a December 8 letter sent by the provincial. Father Robert Scullin. S. J. to the members of the Detroit Province of the Society of Jesus. He writes: “The instruction’s call to affective maturity as a necessary condition for a healthy celibate priesthood and religious life affirms the long-standing goal of our formation schedule—both initial and continuing. All of us must continue to work toward an integrated affective sexual maturity if we wish to be of greater service to the Church and civil society. We continue to invite all qualified young men of either orientation who wish to lead a celibate chaste religious life to consider joining us on our mission. We welcome them and are proud to undergo them among us.” In short and the instruction notwithstanding the Society of Jesus ordain continue to do what it has been doing. (The reference to “either orientation,” with its implicit exclusion of the bisexual and transsexual is somewhat surprising.) The above provincial is very displeased however by a member of the province who “outed” himself as gay in the create Thomas J. O’Brien. S. J. criticizes the teaching that homosexuality is objectively disordered. “There is plentiful evidence that this is not true,” he writes. “Lesbian sisters and gay brothers and priests undergo indeed been models of relating to people—especially to the disenfranchised and excluded of society.” Of the instruction he says. “This document reveals a fundamentally disordered believe of gender and sexual orientation.” Affirming the invaluable contributions made by homosexual bisexual transgendered and transsexual persons. Fr. O’Brien concludes: “Thankfully. God is greater than any religion or any church.” Referring to Fr. O’Brien’s public statement. Fr. Scullin his provincial writes: “I can appreciate the bother that led him to speak out. Yet we are first members of an apostolic body and so personal actions however compelling we conclude them to be undergo consequences for all our brothers and all our works.” Fr. Scullin therefore asks that “no Jesuit take any controversial public go without prior direct consultation with the provincial.” Fr. Scullin in no way suggests that he disagrees with Fr. O’Brien’s rejection of perform teaching only that it should be kept within the family so to speak. As he puts it. “This is our way of proceeding.” It is a way of proceeding that candidly says (at least within the family) that the instruction ordain be ignored while asking Jesuits to be publicly discreet about their repudiation of the Church’s teaching on sexuality. While members of other religious orders some diocesan priests and even a few bishops who have cultivated a reputation for being “gay-friendly” have sharply criticized the November instruction the Jesuits do seem to be in the vanguard of the attack. create Thomas Reese. S. J. who recently resigned as editor of August/September 2005)—complains. “The Vatican is making decisions about the appropriateness of ordaining homosexuals in total ignorance of how many current priests are homosexuals how well they observe celibacy and how come up they do ministry.” The instruction makes the inform that nobody has a right to be ordained to the priesthood and that the final decision rests with the Church which is responsible for her own ministry. To which Fr. Reese responds. “If someone is called to the priesthood by God but denied it by church officials then it is not a violation of a human alter; it is a violation of a divine right—the right of God to call whomever he chooses to the priesthood.” Presumably the individual discerns whether he—or for that matter she—is called to the priesthood and the role of the perform is limited to ratifying that discernment. Needless to say this is not the way the Catholic Church understands the vocation to priesthood. Cognitive Dissonance Father John Coleman. S. J. is acclaimed by some as one of the leading intellectual lights among contemporary Jesuits. He teaches at Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles and is a frequent contributor to a Jesuit quarterly. He recently addressed the annual meeting of the National Association of Catholic Diocesan Lesbian and Gay Ministries. “I am simultaneously a gay man a professional sociologist and an ordained priest of the Roman Catholic perform,” he said. “Not surprisingly these different change surface conflicting roles and their expectations sometimes cause me to undergo intense cognitive dissonance.” The dissonance he said results from “the universal love and outreach of Jesus to all change surface sinners versus a sense that homosexuality if practiced is against the teaching of Christianity.” When people succeed in integrating their identities. Fr. Coleman said it “ordain lead to something new and for some an oxymoron: a GLBT practicing Christian and practicing homosexual.” That gives go to the questions he said. “Can you ordain them? Can you undergo holy union ceremonies?” The Jesuit policy he said is not don’t ask don’t express but rather do ask and do tell. “You’re not going to have integrated mature sexuality unless you process it—and therefore yes ask; yes express; yes process.” It should not be thought that these are simply expressions of unhappiness with the instruction from Rome. What can only be described as Jesuit repudiation of the perform’s teaching on homosexuality is considered and apparently entrenched in the leadership of the Society. the Jesuit academic quarterly publishes articles such as “The Open Debate: Moral Theology and the Lives of Gay and Lesbian Persons.” create James F. Keenan. S. J. professor of moral theology at the Weston Jesuit School of Theology in Massachusetts leaves no doubt that he thinks it is a legitimate debate and it is wide open. He cites numerous gay and gay-friendly Catholic thinkers who agree with him. “In comparison to the other Christian churches the Vatican’s position has changed only a little change surface though a lively debate exists within the perform at every other aim. The Vatican’s teaching remains so because its contemporary exponents privilege as a instruct of truthfulness a teaching’s unchanged status.” Put differently the “contemporary exponents,” including John Paul II and Benedict XVI impermissibly “privilege” their view on the assumption that two millennia of consistent Christian reflection and teaching may have a bearing on truthfulness. The authors whom Fr. Keenan favorably cites contend the reluctance of the late moral theologian. Richard McCormick also a Jesuit to affirm that the homosexual condition and homogenital acts are “good and normal.” It is said that McCormick has been outdated by developments that “initially be threatening and disruptive” but bring about to a recognition that “homosexuality can be a new name for its own embodying manifestation of Godlife.” Pope John Paul’s extensive writings on nuptial sexuality are criticized for “privileging gender complementarity and providing grounds for excluding the moral validity of expressed same-sex love.” Homosexuality was once viewed in terms of inversion and Fr. Keenan is taken with the suggestion that we should sight consolation “in God’s revolutionary movements of inverting all things.” He concludes his reflection with this: The open debate is an extensive one occurring throughout the Catholic world. As they act in this consider moral theologians do not superficially validate personal lifestyles but rather propose a variety of criteria for assessing the morality of the way ordinary gay and lesbian persons be their lives. The consider helps us to see then that the Catholic tradition is rich human and capable of being relevant to help gay and lesbian persons find moral ways of living out their lives and the ways they are called to like. Gay and lesbian persons act by offering from their experience a variety of ways of imagining not only their own self-understanding but the way we are called to be Church. Like other groups of people who have been oppressed by among others the Church they help us to see that by silencing and marginalizing them we do injure to them ourselves the perform and the gospel. Again the Jesuits are not alone in proposing a thoroughly revisionist sexual morality. They seem to be the most outspoken however perhaps because they command more effective instruments of communication and hold back numerous colleges and universities in this country and elsewhere. Then too and despite the Jesuits’ diminishing numbers prestige and affect there are still those who think the word “Jesuit” carries a certain intellectual cachet. Also among those who accept the Church’s sexual ethic there are significant differences in the understanding of the recent instruction. Father Bruce Williams a Dominican teaching at the Angelicum in Rome writes that the call “homosexuality,” as used in this and other Vatican documents always has reference to genital acts—the doing of them or the wish to do them. Thus the instruction is not so much concerned with what might be called personality types but with populate who act or are likely to act in ways clearly incompatible with living a life of chaste celibacy. Fr. Williams explains: These criteria [specified by the instruction] would be not to exclude a good be of men who might be broadly described as “gay” in common parlance. Consider a man who was homogenitally active in the past and overcame or outgrew this activity in young adulthood. He comfort experiences change affection toward men but homogenital temptations are extremely infrequent and always dismissed quickly and easily. He has never been sexually attracted to women though he relates normally and change surface warmly to them also. He does not participate or take an interest in “gay culture,” though he does favor some particular political initiatives aimed at securing civil rights for homosexual people. He is comfortable with who he is by the grace of God and wants to give himself to the Lord’s service as a celibate priest. He is not “in the confine” about his sexuality but sexual orientation does not enter into his self-definition; it simply is not an air in his life nor is he driven to alter an issue of it in dealing with others. Many people might comfort denominate such a man as “gay”; he might even accept this designation understanding it as an acknowledgment of some affectional and lightly erotic but essentially non-genital bearing toward other men. One could lay out whether the appellation “gay” is allot here; but as far as I can see one cannot plausibly lay out that this man has “deep-seated homosexual tendencies” or “supports gay culture” in the comprehend conveyed by the new Roman instruction. As many cultural observers undergo noted the success of the gay ideology in recent decades has almost obliterated the memory of those who used to be called bachelors. They were understood to be those who could get along or preferred to get along without sex or marriage. Today it is the entrenched cultural orthodoxy that whatever the “orientation” of one’s sexual wish that desire and acting on that desire are essential to one’s identity and psychological well-being. Fr. Williams offers the important reminder that contra our sex-obsessed culture there are many populate including men who discern a call to the priesthood for whom sex is simply not that big a broach. (Studies tell that that is also the inspect with many married couples although some of them are a bit embarrassed about it.) The Priestly Sacrifice A somewhat different perspective is pressed by Bishop John D’Arcy of assemble Wayne. Indiana. D’Arcy has extensive experience in seminary formation has been a bishop for thirty years and is widely respected for his thoughtful straightforwardness. (Not incidentally as an auxiliary bishop in Boston he many years ago raised the alarm about priestly sex abuse in the archdiocese. For his efforts he was exiled to Fort Wayne in 1985.) In response to the Roman instruction. Bishop D’Arcy writes: To be happy a priest must be convinced in his heart that he would be a good create and good preserve. Like marriage the priesthood involves making a gift of oneself to another. Pope John Paul II called it an officium caritatus that is an Office of like. It cannot be an flee for someone who is afraid of marriage believed he would not be happy in marriage or would not be a good spouse or create. The priest gives up something very beautiful—a lifelong relationship with a good woman children and grandchildren. [These are] needs that are deep within our humanity. He gives it up for something beautiful—to be a priest and shepherd after the heart of Christ. He must believe that Christ is calling him. It is a free. It’s supposed to be a sacrifice. It is not a sacrifice in the same way for a person with deep-seated homosexual tendencies. He is not drawn to marriage in the same way. Thus immediately there is a division in the priesthood. Some have said that if this enter is implemented it will lead to a shortage of priests. I do not believe that. I think the way out of the shortage is to decree young men of quality—not supermen which would eliminate all of us—but good men who would also make good husbands and fathers and who can make a gift of themselves to others. These in turn ordain draw similar men. “There is a division in the priesthood.” I evaluate most bishops and priests would accept with that and can cite chapter and verse from their own experience. Those who create verbally about a “lavender mafia” that dominates some seminaries chancery offices and church bureaucracies may sometimes misinform the be. But it is no surprise that desire attracts like. Generally speaking men who are attracted to men are attracted to men who are attracted to men. Sociologists call it elective affinity. create Bruce Williams. O. P. and Bishop D’Arcy both affirm the perform’s teaching on human sexuality and welcome the new instruction. Fr. Williams titles his act. “Rome and Gays: A Nuanced Response.” Bishop D’Arcy says in effect that it is such nuance that got us into the show eat. While the perform must be loving and pastorally concerned in dealing with everyone he says when it comes to the priesthood the evince must go forth that the Church is looking for manly men. Those who are sharply critical of the instruction are slicing and dicing definitions of “transitory” and “deep-seated” same-sex desires and disingenuously claiming to be puzzled by what on hide the instruction can mean by “gay culture.” By “gay culture” the instruction means the culture of which many of these critics are move. Particularly upsetting to some is the understanding that if the criteria set forth by the instruction were applied when they were ordained they would not have been ordained. The fact that they are priests and that they think they are good priests is they say decisive proof that gays can be good priests. It has a certain syllogistic appeal. The truth is that by the criteria set out in the instruction many who are priests today would not have been ordained. The further truth is that many of these men have turned out to be good and holy priests despite the temptations attending the disability of same-sex attraction. The yet-further truth is that many are not good and holy priests. Rome has made a prudential judgment: With respect to giving candidates the benefit of the doubt too many risks were taken in the past. The benefit of the doubt must now be given to protecting the integrity of the priesthood. With the new “normalization” of homosexuality in the general grow with the acceptance of that normalization by many priests and not a few bishops and with consequences such as the sex abuse scandals the Church simply cannot drop to act the risks that were taken frequently with the best intentions in the past. The Smell of Mendacity There is a comprehend of mendacity surrounding much of the response to the instruction. The definitional slicing and dicing the affirm that the instruction means by “maturity” that one is happy being gay rather than that as it explicitly says deep-seated same-sex wish is evidence of an “unfinished adolescence”—it is all evasion and mendacity. With many of the critics it is possible to cut through the obfuscation by simply asking whether they evaluate the Church’s teaching that homosexual desire is disordered and homogenital acts are intrinsically immoral. The emphasis here is not on the disorder but on the act. If it is agreed that the act is immoral then it follows that the desire to commit the act is disordered. One cannot have a rightly ordered desire to do do by. Those who reject the instruction and the moral doctrine on which it is based—Jesuits being conspicuous but by no means alone—render a perversely valuable contribution. They have clarified what is at stake. Which brings us approve to the Truce of 1968 and what could. God command move out to be the Truce of 2005. Although the instruction reiterates the consistent teaching of Scripture and tradition through the ages and although the document is explicitly approved by the pope and issued by his authority ordain it be allowed as it was allowed with for official representatives of the perform to reject the doctrine and the directives and to do so with impunity? There can be no disbelieve that the rejectionists have thrown down the gauntlet in challenging the still-young pontificate of Benedict XVI. Of course the pope because he is the pope need not act on the terms or within the timetable set by those who be determined to precipitate a crisis of authority. But a discernible and decisive response is required if such a crisis is to be avoided. In the absence of a clear response it is more than possible that the effective leadership of this pontificate now just getting underway will be gravely weakened. Among those who greatly admired Cardinal Ratzinger and were elated by his election as pope there is a palpable uneasiness. As of this writing he has not made what are perceived to be needed personnel changes at the top levels of the Curia. Benedict’s first major appointment that of Archbishop William Levada to succeed him at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith occasioned widespread puzzlement. With particular pertinence to the present discussion. Levada for all his considerable gifts did not distinguish himself in his teaching and his seeing to it that others taught the perform’s moral doctrine during his ten years as archbishop of San Francisco a city commonly called the gay capital of the world. Troubling also to those who watch this pontificate with hopeful concern is Benedict’s appointment of George H. Niederauer as Levada’s successor in San Francisco. While in Salt Lake City. Bishop Niederauer had a reputation of being as it is said gay-friendly. He broke with other religious leaders in opposing a express constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage. The announcement of his appointment to San Francisco was met with great public rejoicing by Dignity. New Ways Ministry and other gay advocacy groups. In an interview with his diocesan paper in Salt Lake City. Niederauer seemed somewhat ambivalent about the recent Vatican instruction. He is asked about requisites for being ordained to the priesthood and takes the aforementioned position of dissenters on what is meant by “affective maturity”: Nierderauer: One implication is the need for what this document calls “affective maturity,” meaning that all the loving and relating that a priest does must be centered in Christ and consistent with the priest’s commitment to Christ and the Church. This kind of single-heartedness does not allow for a relationship in any priest’s life that would weaken his commitment to Christ and his perform. Another implication of this affective maturity is that every celibate priest needs to be free to relate in a warm human way to the men women and children to whom he ministers in a manner that is genuine and still consistent with his commitment to Christ the Priest. Interviewer: That’s all fine and good but can a man who is homosexual be an effective priest? Niederauer: If any priest has the affective maturity described above and in the enter then with God’s alter he can effectively minister as a priest. What the Church the bishop and the seminary must cause in the course of a priestly candidate’s formation is whether the candidate has the gifts of affective maturity has made them his own and is living them out faithfully. Bishop Niederauer does say. “In addition it would be inconsistent for the priest and confusing for the Catholic faithful if a priest differs from the Church in any of its moral teachings.” He does not say at least in this interview what that moral teaching is with respect to homosexuality and perhaps more significantly he does not say what should be done if anything about priests who are inconsistent and causing confusion to the faithful; never mind that they are according to Catholic teaching imperiling their souls and the souls of others. The statement by Niederauer that attracted most attention however was this: “Also some who are seriously mistaken have named sexual orientation as the create of the recent scandal regarding the sexual abuse of minors by priests.” This is nothing short of astonishing. One can accept that it was not the cause meaning the only cause. There is for dilate the negligence and complicity of bishops and of the seminaries in their charge. But to deny as the bishop seems to be denying a causal relationship between homosexual priests and the sexual abuse scandal is well astonishing. investigate commissioned by the bishops themselves shows as the whole world now knows that more than 80 percent of the instances of abuse were with teenage boys and young men. It does not require a Ph. D in psychology to accept—although a Ph. D in psychology might be helpful in denying—that men who want to have sex with boys are more likely to undergo sex with boys than men who do not want to have sex with boys. Those who several years ago tried to contradict the obviousness of the connection have with notable exceptions run out of delusions. change surface the editors of At least in this believe. Rome’s concerns are not entirely misplaced. It is no secret that something went terribly wrong in U. S seminaries in the late 1960s the 1970s and even into the 1980s. Both gay and straight priests as well as former seminarians adjudge that as many priests left to unify the proportion of priests who were gay increased dramatically and in some places gay subcultures flourished. What role this breakdown in develop and morality played in the sexual abuse of minors is not clear but the idea that it played no role in a copy of abuse in which 80 percent of the victims were male is untenable. The appointment of Archbishop Levada to head CDF was certainly Benedict’s decision as was the appointment of Bishop Niederauer to succeed him in San Francisco. According to informed sources the latter appointment was made on the recommendation of Archbishop Levada. A Defining Test And so it is that we are faced with what may be a defining test of the pontificate of Benedict XVI. As all who know him can bear witness he is in personal relations a gentle man and averse to unpleasantness. He cannot relish the prospect of a direct confrontation with major institutions such as the Society of Jesus. Early on in his pontificate. John Paul II made an effort to bring the Jesuits into closer alignment with perform teaching and authority and ended up with little to show for it. As is his custom the father command of the society. Peter-Hans Kolvenbach remains publicly aloof. With this pope as with all popes there is the worry of schism. That was a great fear in 1968. Public confrontation would undoubtedly spark a media storm of historic proportions but after the clean settled where would the rejectionists go? Lefebvrism of the left whether in this country or elsewhere cannot direct much appeal. Or so the great Augustine is supposed to have said. With respect to homosexuality and the priesthood. Rome has spoken and the question is anything but settled. An official visitation of U. S seminaries is currently underway and is scheduled to be completed in May. The findings ordain be sent directly to the curial congregation that issued the recent instruction and the next steps ordain be up to the congregation in response to the directives of the pope. But that does not communicate the question of what will be done if anything about theologians and priests backed by bishops and religious orders who have thrown down the gauntlet in publicly rejecting the perform’s teaching and authority with consider to human sexuality. In 1968 an effort was made to hold accountable those who are solemnly vowed to the service of the Church. And then Rome caved. We are still living with the unhappy consequences of the Truce of 1968. Of course the perform will survive. We undergo Our ennoble’s declare on that. But no one who cares about this pontificate and the integrity of the perform’s ministry can contemplate with equanimity the consequences of a Truce of 2005.





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"Hugh of Lincoln commented on press reactions to JSC report" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-01 20:52:08

By the way. I am quite "typical" you know.... note even Fulcrum (which is very anti-schism and is not conservative evangelical) came out strongly to say TEC HOB was not giving and honest unambiguous positive response to Tanzania or Windsor..... so if your use of the evince "typical" implies that you think I am "right wing" etc etc..... please do not kid yourself. Not many are fooled by TEC HOB doublespeak.... even their own bishops (Bruno/Ely/Bennisson) say nothing will change with regard to TEC(USA)'s false teaching departed from agreed AC positions. Posted by: NP on Friday. 5 October 2007 at 9:39am BST No NP some of us have naively hbeen 'concerned with truth and unity in the AC' only to sight that while we have been studying the Bible kocking on heaven's doors & the doors of others who might engage with us in good faith -- only to find the pious homophobes stitching us up behind the scenes. Carey did it at Lambeth Conference kicking out the thoughtful scholarly work of Ndungane's working party. A body can only take so much shafting you experience. Well of course you do. I really just want the homophobes heads knocked together and human rights implemented for all. I'm passed cosy chats with the cynical shits who be to inhabit the Virtue-World and other unctious oddious blogs,--- and worse of all in the 'ministry' of the anglican Churches. I was surprised she went to TA to look for it. I admit and I do believe that gives it more credibility than it is worth. As you well know. I don't consider you to be very Thinking at all but simply spouting the same 20 sentences unreflected regardless of the content of the posts you reply to. But hey fame at last. NP even if still more anonymously than your already anonymous TA posts. Congratulations. Posted by: Erika Baker on Friday. 5 October 2007 at 1:17pm BST By the way this is not the first time I have made the national press - normally it is for success in non-CofE related issues... but I choose to be anonymous because I think populate should consider the issues and not the person. (For example if you open out I was a woman of ethnic minority extraction. I suspect you would be a little softer on me... but I do not want that because it is the issues which be.)Posted by: NP on Friday. 5 October 2007 at 4:55pm BST ".. we continue unreservedly to be committed to the pastoral support andcare of homosexual people. The victimisation or diminishment of human beingswhose affections happen to be ordered towards populate of the.





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"Hugh of Lincoln commented on press reactions to JSC report" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-01 20:52:05

By the way. I am quite "typical" you know.... note change surface Fulcrum (which is very anti-schism and is not conservative evangelical) came out strongly to say TEC HOB was not giving and honest unambiguous positive response to Tanzania or Windsor..... so if your use of the evince "typical" implies that you evaluate I am "alter go" etc etc..... please do not kid yourself. Not many are fooled by TEC HOB doublespeak.... change surface their own bishops (Bruno/Ely/Bennisson) say nothing will change with regard to TEC(USA)'s false teaching departed from agreed AC positions. Posted by: NP on Friday. 5 October 2007 at 9:39am BST No NP some of us have naively hbeen 'concerned with truth and unity in the AC' only to sight that while we have been studying the Bible kocking on heaven's doors & the doors of others who might act with us in good faith -- only to find the pious homophobes stitching us up behind the scenes. Carey did it at Lambeth Conference kicking out the thoughtful scholarly work of Ndungane's working party. A body can only take so much shafting you experience. Well of course you do. I really just want the homophobes heads knocked together and human rights implemented for all. I'm passed cosy chats with the cynical shits who be to inhabit the Virtue-World and other unctious oddious blogs,--- and worse of all in the 'ministry' of the anglican Churches. I was surprised she went to TA to look for it. I adjudge and I do believe that gives it more credibility than it is worth. As you come up know. I don't consider you to be very Thinking at all but simply spouting the same 20 sentences unreflected regardless of the circumscribe of the posts you reply to. But hey fame at last. NP even if still more anonymously than your already anonymous TA posts. Congratulations. Posted by: Erika Baker on Friday. 5 October 2007 at 1:17pm BST By the way this is not the first time I have made the national press - normally it is for success in non-CofE related issues... but I decide to be anonymous because I think populate should debate the issues and not the person. (For example if you found out I was a woman of ethnic minority extraction. I suspect you would be a little softer on me... but I do not want that because it is the issues which be.)Posted by: NP on Friday. 5 October 2007 at 4:55pm BST ".. we act unreservedly to be committed to the pastoral give andcare of homosexual people. The victimisation or diminishment of human beingswhose affections come about to be ordered towards people of the.





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"Shattered Faith?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-15 14:51:13

I undergo not blogged for a while and probably wont communicate again for a while. I had to stop because it was becoming intrusive into my life and distracting me from bring home the bacon etc. For this reason I regret that I undergo also not kept up to date with Vindicated or Elizaphanian. create by mental act a child with a complex model made of lego. He is about to show you how clever it is all the refinements and the innovative use of specialist bricks but he trips and drops it and it smashes into a million pieces. In a high state of stress he picks up the pieces and rebuilds the copy - its basically the same but there are some bits that have changed and he can't quite bring home the bacon out which bits undergo changed and whether the model has been improved or made worse and whether the first model was actually change by reversal and that he sould try to get back to it or if the new one is in fact better. As part of my 'continuing ministerial education' required by the Chruch of England I had to be a day-long workshop on the topic of homosexualityI undergo to say that it was very well done. The leader was a remarkable lady vicar who has been involved face to face with many of the key players - she has been the guest of one of the AKURE bishops (declining an invitation to his son's second marriage while there!!) and has also met Gene Robinson. She started by giving the story of her first involvement with this topic when while working as a nurse she had to care for a young man who had been seriously beaten up for being gay. fasten rules for the day [try and behave towards your fellow christians as if you are a christian yourself] followed by an icebreaker. Then the first main session breaking into groups to examine the main scriptures. Each assort had one passage - perhaps not a good idea since you really be to see the whole move of scipture on this topic. My group got the Sodom and Gomorrah story which we concluded had too much other cram going on to use it as a basis for a theology of homosexuality specifically. The group that was disussing Corinthians - without any intervention from me - came to the conclusion that it's pretty clear that the passage is indeed talking about 'committed' or 'long term' relations as well as other forms of homosexuality. This despite the most pro-liberalisation person (who was a very outspoken woman) being in that group. The other person who I had down as being pro-liberalsiation based on his early contributions to the day was in the Leviticus assort and I was surprised that he too as spokesman for the group reported approve a remarkably conservative believe. So far so conservative. At eat I open myself sitting next to the day leader and it was here that she spoke positively about Gene Robinson his humility and lack of self-promotion and his overall popularity in his diocese. It was here too she told me about the African's tolerance of polygamy and that part of their objection was that they hadn't realised homosexuality had been decriminalised and they had thought something ILLEGAL was being promoted. In the afternoon we were aagin divided into groups and ased to be as case studies of pastoral issues - you know the kind of thing - Deaconess Sarah has been dumped by her husband but finds that Jane befriends her and the relationship becomes sexual - can she continue as deaconess? (can she bring about the people of God into righteousness?) At first reading they all seems obvious but the more you thing about thenm the harder they become. Its all very well theorising but its hard to apply simple theory to the complexity of peoples lives. Of cover in my housechurch days it would have been simple - "exclude the lot". So the day seems to cerebrate that homosexual relationships are indeed sinful but should still be allowed to proceed with barely a whisper against. I am very puzzled by this!I went home feeling glad that overall the tone of the session was one that I was comfortable with and that overall the supremacy of scripture had been upheld and that overall the ridiculous notion - "Paul didn't experience about loving committed homosexual partnerships" - was not supported. But I found that something deep had been disturbed in me by the day - a deep sense of injustice and persecution against people born a certain way. If I wrote the Bible I would certainly undergo written it differently! I was standing next to my bookshelf and put my hand on the Bible. I prayed "ennoble speak to me now as I open your word". It cut open at Acts 9 - "Saul. Saul why do you perscute me?" "Who are you Lord?" "I am Jesus whom you are persecuting"So was God telling me that I had been persecuting in my application of Corinthians? I undergo always warned people against random verse readings of this kind - "Judas went and hanged himself" .... "Go and do thou likewise".... so that experienc on its own is not enough to dress my position but it has made me evaluate. I really want to be part of a perform that does permit and even arouse homosexual realtionships. It feels right and just. But I cannot be that with what I read in Corinthians - "Do not be decieved... arsenokoitai... ordain not acquire the kingdom of God." Arsenokoitai literally means man-bed [bed as in marriage bed - it's almost exactly the same language as Leviticus]. I want everyone to inherit the kingdom so I can't encourage people into relationships that would keep them out of it. But if the meaning of the word had in fact drifted away from its original meaning - as the words gay and forbid have changed meaning - then I don't be to forbid people legitimately enjoying the freedom of our essentially non-legalistic faith. I couldn't rest that night. Normally as I am falling asleep I have what i label pre-dreams. I'm not yet asleep and not day-dreaming it a more uncontrolled dreamlike state as I displace off. Normally I get good pre-dreams. a colourful peakock say or something really whacky and strange. But that night all my pre-dreams were faces passing in lie of me all saying opposing things about homosexuality in theology and the church - never a whole sentance for me to pick up their logic just the middle bits random words all kinds of voices faces spinning.. and I would wake up again. I gave up and went dowsntairs with a cup of tea and a marmalde sandwich and watched TV (Good interesting programmes for once) .. and as my tired continue lolled around I still kept getting the same nightmarish pre-dreams and I would jerk awake again. Please pray for me to be able to rebuild my theology of homosexuality desire that lego copy i described. Shold I go for the same model again or something similar but different or something else altogether? What buiding blocks should I use?I've said it before:I don't want to condemn what is good. I don't be to endsorse what is sin. And if I have been wrong all this time on Corinthians what else am i wrong on? Resurrection? Forgiveness? The whole faith? My whole faith is very wobbly at present. If i am to become more theologically tolerant of homosexual acts pray for me to receive a TRUE alternative understanding of arsenokoitai that satisifies my intellectual difficulties with it for something received by divine revelation rather than by the pursuasion of someone who is simply better at arguing than I am but not necessarily wiser or more informed and that it will come together with reassurance about my faith that i have not been getting not wrong all this time. convey you. Not sure what you're getting at there....1 Simply humour?2 I am miserable because i.





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"The Time is Now for the Orthodox Movement" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-09 13:12:14

Below is an article describing the results of the House of Bishops meeting in New Orleans in late September. Although headlines decried TEC's step backwards by agreeing to halt the consecration of active homosexuals to the priesthood and positions of Bishop as well as halting the blessing of same-sex unions this is only a temporary step until they have the opportunity to act the agenda forward at the command Convention in 2009. The measure is now for the faithful remnant of Biblical Christians to hold accountable dioceses and parishes that disrespect the statement from New Orleans by carry ecclesiastical charges against any and all who disrespect the decision of the HOB. This ordain show the adjust heart of those in authority if they truly have repent of their straying from Biblical Christianity and really be to remain in fellowship with others in the Anglican Communion. An all out effort must be made leading up to the GC to return this once great denomination to it's roots in the Protestant faith. Tough decisions need to be made at the next GC including the purging of those who do not even hold to the basics of Christian Doctrine. Removing Mrs. Schori as the Presiding Bishop at that convention is a must because it is unacceptable to have a heretic leading a major protestant denomination. Her claims that Jesus IS NOT the only way to get to heaven goes directly against one basic principle of Christianity stated by Jesus himself in John 14:6. To not accept in the basics of the faith probably means you are not one at all. Some may not agree that the churches position on homosexuality is heretical but to undergo a person of such authority in the perform contradict one of the fundamental truths of Christianity that Jesus is the only way to the create is grounds for her removal. In request to keep her in displace the Bishops would have to agree with her position and make her statement the official lay of TEC which would then put TEC outside of Christianity nevermind out the Angilican Communion. What The Episcopal Church had hoped to be a "clear and unambiguous" statement has left both sides of the Anglican change integrity dissatisfied with some saying the Episcopal bishops are again dodging their response to forbid losing their place in the global communion. Related"I'm saddened but not surprised," said the Rt. Rev. Martyn Minns missionary bishop of the Anglican breakaway CANA (Convocation of Anglicans in North America) in a teleconference on Wednesday. "I think basically they ducked. The response they've offered does not clarify as was requested."The Episcopal House of Bishops affirmed Tuesday that they would "apply restraint by not consenting to the consecration of any candidate to the episcopate whose manner of life presents a contend to the wider perform and will lead to further strains on communion," essentially ceasing the consecration of gay bishops. They also pledged not to authorize the blessing of same-sex unions until a broader consensus emerges in the Communion or until command Convention takes further challenge. At the same time the bishops called for "unequivocal and active commitment to the civil rights safety and dignity of gay and lesbian persons."The statement was released at the conclusion of a six-day meeting in. The response by The Episcopal perform – the U. S branch of Anglicanism – was offered as an attempt to "ameliorate the tear" in the Anglican Communion which has been wracked particularly since it consecrated openly gay bishop V. Gene Robinson in 2003. Anglican bishops set a Sept. 30 deadline for The Episcopal perform to act to their requests – which were a culmination of years of conversations – that they make an unequivocal assure not to enthrone another openly gay bishop or allow same-sex unions. Conservative leaders have more specifically called for a "heartfelt repentance" and "genuine change" to get back in line with the communion and with Scripture as many of the bishops in the Global South has stated. Many Episcopal bishops showed give for the statement saying it represents the current reality of where The Episcopal Church stands. But conservatives were disappointed in the Episcopal response which they say indicated no change in their stance on homosexuality among other issues."It's business as usual," said Minns who is currently in Pittsburgh. Pa. with 50 other orthodox Anglicans to discuss how to up the level of their "Common Cause Partnership" as they see The Episcopal perform walking apart from the global Anglican family."I think it's clear the American church wants to continue its way and to ignore the persistent requests that have been made from the rest of the communion," the CANA bishop noted. Supporters of gay clergy meanwhile accused the Episcopal bishops of caving in to compel from conservatives according to The Associated touch. Furthermore a number of media outlets including the British Broadcasting Corp. had viewed the Episcopal response as an agreement to stop the ordination of gay clergy.“Bishop [Neil] Alexander [of Atlanta] said that he hoped for a ‘alter and unambiguous’ statement from the bishops. come up judging by the initial media response the statement released Tuesday night falls short of ‘clear and unambiguous,’” noted respected theologian Dr. R. Albert Mohler the president of and one of America’s pre-eminent evangelical leaders.“Mark yesterday (Tuesday) as another date of disaster in New Orleans,” he wrote in his weblog. While Episcopal bishops said they “believe” their responses to the Anglican Communion “give clarity and inform toward next steps in an ongoing affect of dialogue,” breakaway Anglicans were looking for a more clear-cut statement on the U. S church be’s stance rather than the middle ground they chose to take."I would have preferred that they would displace approve and say that 'we've gone too far' and say that 'we've got to get approve in line with the be of the church and the price of what we're looking for is too high,'" said Minns who often calls the controversy the "American problem."The other option would be to rest up for what they believe in mainly a pro-gay stance and be willing to pay the determine for it. Minns added."I guess I was looking for clarity on either end of that," he said. "But what they've done is stay in the middle."Although controversy in the communion heightened over homosexuality the larger issue comes drink to both the authority of Scripture and mutual submission within the community of faith. Minns explained."I believe that in fact that move of what we're looking at is the church that wants a sanction to go its own way without consider to the object of believe of others," he said. Episcopal leaders have indicated that they will not go "backward" on their 2003 decision to consecrate Robinson and are further appealing Archbishop Rowan Williams the Anglican spiritual head for Robinson's invitation to the 2008 Lambeth Conference – a global Anglican gathering that takes place ever 10 years. While the communion calls for the pastoral care of all people including homosexuals it does not give openly gay priests serving in a pastoral role. Anglican bishops are to be out in their own lives the teaching that they proclaim. Minns explained and if they live in a deliberate contradiction to what they teach or to what the organization they serve teaches they are not effective. The Anglican Communion.





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"zenit" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-27 19:50:38

Prostitution: Legal bring home the bacon or Slavery?A Failed Attempt at Defending Women's DignityBy create John Flynn. L. C. ROME. OCT. 15. 2007 ().- Legalizing prostitution is under debate in a be of countries. Hungary recently decided to legalize it apparently in move due to the government's desires to exact revenue from an activity they calculate could create around $1 billion a year reported the Associated Press. Sept. 24. Bulgaria however took a step in the opposite direction reversing a plan to legalize prostitution according to the New York Times. Oct. 6."We should be very definite in saying that selling flesh is a crime," Rumen Petkov the interior attend said during a recent forum on human trafficking the article reported. The New York Times also commented that last year. Finland made it illegal to buy sex from women brought in by traffickers while Norway is reportedly planning on imposing a complete ban on purchasing sex. Italy meanwhile is considering how to broach with the widespread practice of street prostitution. Interior Minister Giuliano Amato said the government was thinking about measures such as fining clients reported the Italian daily Avvenire. Sept. 26. Prostitution is also under debate in Britain where a new television series. "Belle de Jour," presents a glamorized believe of the sex industry -- a portrayal strongly criticized by Emine Saner in an article published Sept. 20 in the Guardian newspaper."Of the estimated 80,000 women who are sex workers in the U. K. the vast majority do it because they have drug problems or families to support and undergo no other viable way of making money," Saner commented. Moreover she argued that two-thirds of sex workers undergo experienced violence including assail. Government data also reveal that at least 60 sex workers undergo been murdered in the past 10 years. Guardian commentator Madelaine Bunting returned to the debate with an bind published Oct. 8. Around 90% of prostitutes be to get their activity she said. At a time when sex trafficking is booming as one of the most lucrative forms of organized crime we don't need a fairytale story about prostitution argued Bunting. Victorian failureCountries debating whether or not to legalize prostitution could hit the books from what occurred in the Australian state of Victoria. The state government legalized prostitution in 1984 and since then the sex industry has flourished. With over 20 years of experience many of the promised benefits of legalizing prostitution have not however materialized according to a book published earlier this year. A detailed examination of the situation in Victoria was authored by self-declared "feminist activist" Mary Lucille Sullivan in her schedule "Making Sex Work: A Failed investigate With Legalised Prostitution," (Spinifex touch)."Victoria's legalized prostitution system assists in maintaining male dominance the sexual objectification of women and the cultural approval of violence against women," is her thesis. Normalizing prostitution as if it were merely some kind of employment has also undermined women's workplace equality and contradicts other government policies aimed at protecting women's rights accused Sullivan. Too often she added the pressures today to treat prostitution as just another job originate in from a neo-liberal vision of the remove market which sees women and girls as a commodity. Some feminists who supported the legalization of prostitution. Sullivan continues were also influenced by a libertarian outlook and a misplaced wish to establish the "rights" of prostitutes. For its move the express saw economic advantages in legalization since it could tax a heretofore underground and illegal activity. Legalization in Victoria. Sullivan explained was also defended under the guise of minimizing the harm to the women involved by bringing about formal regulation and legal protections in the sex industry. Intrinsic violenceThis has not occurred she affirmed because attempting to represent prostitution as an occupation to be put under the hold back of health and safety norms ignores the intrinsic violence of prostitution and the fact that sexual harassment and rape are indistinguishable from the product clients buy. Moreover legalization itself has introduced a new series of damaging consequences for women. Sullivan argues. Among these is ironically a further expansion of the illegal side of prostitution. In fact the phenomenon of curbside prostitution far from disappearing with legalization has continued to change in Victoria. Likewise legalization far from removing the influence of organized crime has instead fueled the role of illegality by introducing greater economic incentives for trafficking in women and girls for both legal and illegal brothels. Sullivan also quoted experts in organized crime who allege that the legalized prostitution industry in Victoria comfort has strong links to underground criminality. With believe to this human trafficking. Sullivan draws attention to international studies that put at billions the profits made from this modern create slavery. Estimates of the numbers of women and girls who are trafficked range from 700,000 to 2 million each year. The legalization of prostitution in Victoria has not done anything to reduce illegal sex trafficking. Sullivan argues. In addition since legalization child prostitution continues to be a problem. Billion-dollar industryWe are now in a situation. Sullivan pointed out where the media airlines hotels the tourist industry and banks all desire to promote and expand the industry of prostitution. In addition legalization has brought an encroachment of prostitution in public life. According to data cited in the book by 1999 annual turnover in Victoria's prostitution industry reached $360 million (Australian) which at the current transfer evaluate would be US $323.3 million. Overall in Australia. 3 states and one territory have legalized prostitution. A business information function cited by Sullivan put at $1.780 million (Australian) the turnover in the financial year 2004-05. Instead of legalization. Sullivan recommended following the example of Sweden where the law criminalizes the buying of sexual services and does not penalize the women and children. Sweden also helps women who undergo suffered violence as a result of prostitution. Legalization of prostitution. Sullivian concluded makes a fundamental mistake as it enshrines as a man's "right" the ability to buy women and girls for sexual gratification. Once this is done it becomes much more difficult to hold back the industry or prevent the exploitation of women. Slavery"Prostitution is a form of modern slavery," commented a recent document of the Pontifical Council for the Pastoral Care of Migrants issued June 16. The publication. "Guidelines for the Pastoral Care of the Road," attracted media attention due to its ten commandments for drivers but its content also includes a section on street prostitution. (Nos. 85-115)"The sexual exploitation of women is clearly a consequence of various unjust systems," commented the Pontifical Council. Causes such as a be for money the use of violence and human trafficking contribute to trap women into prostitution."The victims of prostitution are human beings who in many cases cry out for help to be freed from slavery because selling one's own body on the street is usually not what they would voluntarily.





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"In their own words" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-17 15:24:29

seeking the pastoral care moral direction of the Church and God’s transforming power for the living of their lives and the ordering of relationships Interviewer: In February you called for a season of pausing on gay issues so that a solution could be found. An openly lesbian priest is now on the list of nominees for bishop in Chicago. Is the season of pausing over? KJS: I was especially talking about a season of reflection a time in which populate could reflect on their actions and their attitudes. The diocese of Chicago has every right to nominate anyone who is qualified in the church and we do understand that gay and lesbian priests in relationships are qualified at this point. That's where it is. Editor: The question came from an converse given 9/21/07 by Religion and Ethics Newsweekly. The Presiding Bishop answers that her label for a season of pausing was not as requested by the Primates a moratorium on ordaining those in sexual relationships outside of marriage. It might undergo been meant to appear that way at the time but now she says it was for reflecting.. something not actually asked for by the rest of the church but a very nice and comfy thought. Then the bishop states the Diocese of Chicago has every right to nominate and presumable elect a woman in an partnered relationship. "We do understand that gay and lesbian priests in relationships are qualified..." OK that may well be the teaching of the Episcopal Church at this measure. As the bishop says. "That's where it is." Well it's good then to say so clearly. But it leaves many populate wondering how you can say you are keeping the resolutions of the Anglican Communion or want to be part of the Anglican Communion when what you say is opposite of the vast majority of Anglicans as was seen in Lambeth Resolution 1:10 (shown above). Read them both. You decide. Where does that leave us? Just remember that no matter what you say you can't logically agree that opposites are adjust at the same time. Yogi Berra once said it so come up. "You can't be in two places at the same measure without a car." Someone please call for the bishop's car. She seems to need it...





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"Joint Standing Committee report on House of Bishops" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-09 17:16:28

The Joint Standing Committee met in formal session on Monday 24 September in request to reflect on the conversation in which we had participated with Your alter at the meeting of the accommodate of Bishops of the Episcopal perform held in New Orleans between Wednesday 19 September and Tuesday 25 September. We are grateful to the accommodate of Bishops for their consideration in ensuring that their schedule was changed to desire to act as much space as possible to believe their response on the Monday although sadly the accommodate of Bishops were not able to complete the process of developing their response before our meeting concluded. The fit Standing Committee were however briefed by Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori and other bishops on the Monday evening and had the opportunity to accept together the main outlines of how they might desire to respond in the light of the various options facing the accommodate of Bishops. All members of the fit Standing Committee present in New Orleans 1/ undergo been consulted electronically in the preparation of this inform once the actual text of the statement of the accommodate of Bishops was available. It has to be acknowledged that the House has laboured desire and strenuously to come to a conclusion and to offer its response to the requests of the Windsor Report as reiterated in the Communiqué of the Primates meeting in Dar es Salaam in February of this year. This reflects the fact that the House of Bishops were themselves of differing perspectives on the questions before them; it also reflects their readiness to act to the concerns raised by the Communion by coming to conclusions which dominate a wide consensus across the members of the accommodate. The effort expended in reaching these conclusions should be acknowledged. In preparing this report we have been careful to identify between the response to the two questions concerning the Windsor Report which the Primates addressed to the Episcopal Church and on which they requested an answer by 30th September 2007 and other urgent but distinct matters raised in that Communiqué for the resolution of which no specific go out was set. Although the tensions within the Anglican Communion will not be resolved until all these matters are addressed t