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"La Familia Ranch Pumpkin Patch--Los Osos" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-13 12:16:16

The season opening for La Familia Ranch's pumpkin stand is Saturday. September 29. They will have jack o' lanterns giant pumpkins mini 'pumpkins' rouge d'temps all types of gourds winter squash broom corn sunflowers and other fall decoratives. This family-run stand is on the home ranch and will include (by the weekend of Oct 6) a farm animal "petting zoo": sheep calf and cow pigs goats chickens etc,. This is a casual and sane alternative to the other very commercialized farm stands on the central coast. I like it because it is on an old operating (c 1890's?) central coast ranch so kids get the feel of what a real ranch is like. The family is wonderful and very down to earth and work the stand themselves. And fair prices so you can really stock up with a great assortment. Take the Los Osos Vallley Rd exit north or southbound from 101 in San Luis Obispo. Drive about 5 miles out toward Los Osos on LOVR to sign at driveway for La Familia Ranch: "Pumpkins". Use caution on the one lane driveway. Plenty of parking near the farmstand. **Note: it can be chilly when the wind is coming up the valley from the ocean. Dress kids warmly! Most of LOV is in Williamson Act where the landowners agree not to develop for 20 years in exchange for tax breaks so they can afford to keep farming. La Familia Ranch is just one local LOVR producing farm. Across the road and towards SLO just a bit is a small farm (Ralph?) which sells organically grown veggies and herbs and tomato plants at Farmer's in SLO and Baywood. And there are certified organic farm fields (look for the small signs on the fence)between La Familia and the Highland ranch on the west side of LOVR. Farther down the LOVR corridor is Clark Valley Ranch which sells at Farmers and does harvest boxes. Many other small growers in this area show their produce at different local Farmers Mkts. We are indeed lucky to have our committed local growers. La Familia (leased by the way) is such a great place to me because it is a real working farm and the family runs the farmstand. They genuinely enjoy meeting with the public too. No disinterested teenage clerks. They are walking the walk not just creating a tourist photo-op. Thanks for the update Toodie Jane- we are so excited to return this season! We so enjoyed the family feel the attention paid to making it fun for children and the prices! What a bargin compared to what we are used to paying! FYI. Solvang Farmer looks better everyday- they are setting out all the old farming equiptment they have corn tied around all the poles of the stand and they have some squash already displayed. Solvang Farmer is located on the 246 between Buellton and Solvang- maybe 2 miles East of the 101. The Farmstand on the154 now located at the stop sign at Hiway 154 and Edison (Santa Ynez Valley)- Somerset Farms has been busy all season and I fully expect him to do the pumpkins and corn maze again. I can't wait to get up to La Familia Ranch and check it out. Avila Valley Barn can be so crowded. I did check Solvang Farmer. Good size pumpkins but my grandkids were not excited. Looks like a really nice maze but it was 3.00 and out of my budget with 4 grandkids and pumpkins to buy. The grandkids enjoyed the Somerset Farms Pumpkin Patch. More kids friendly less expensive than Solvang Farmer. They had a maze too which was 2.00. Very cute set up friendly staff and other goodies at the stand too. We headed to Santa Barbara to pick up two more grandchildren and stopped at Lane Farms (Hollister Ave and Walnut). Free Maze. Free tractor hay rides some animals and lots of pumpkins and gourds. Many area set up for great photos. The kids had fun exploring everything. Does anyone have pictures of La Familia Ranch? Sorry. I don't have any photos. I should! I will take some today. La Familia is a real c. 1880's ranch not something set up on an empty lot somewhere nor a make-believe 'ranch' with new barns built for tourists. I love this place because it's a real breath of fresh air. Not even a cash register. Bills are figured out long-hand. The owners happily greet customers as if they are neighbors dropping by for a chat. I can tell you the pumpkin-choosing area is fairly small maybe 2,000 sq ft. It sits below the barn along the dirt driveway to a working ranch so it's not the "playground" that most commercial pumpkin patches are. No maze but a "spooky" path criss-crossing a creek with pens of farm animals as are available (not just for show) and the NICEST ranch family hosts complete with dog and mouser. La Familia had a set-back a few weeks ago--vandals came at night and stole all the large expensive pumpkins. $500 worth. The sheriff found the pumpkins dumped in a creek so it was likely a student 'dare-ya' kind of stunt. Poly is rushing fraternities right now... h-m-m-m. Anyway it'd be great if the community continued to support La Familia all through Thanksgiving. They will be selling pumpkins broomcorn baking squash of all kinds and beautiful pollenless sunflowers at the ranch through Turkey Day. They also sell dry beans and other ranch products at the Sat morning Farmer's Market at the Gottcschalk's center in SLO off Madonna Rd. *(There are wheelbarrows to gather pumpkins and help to load purchases.) I have some photos. I'll try attaching them the place is great went last week on the way back from Cambria. Plus everything is a good price. I got 3 decent pumpkins and 2 squash for $7.00





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"Los Osos woman arrested for DUI after she allegedly hits bartender ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-01 20:52:37

A 45-year-old woman hit a man and a building with her car late Tuesday night according to the CHP. Sheryl Burdick of Los Osos was fighting with her boyfriend outside Sweet Springs Bar in the 900 block of Los Osos Valley Road around 11:40 p m. Monday according to the CHP. A bartender came outside to ask the couple to get the premises. As Burdick's boyfriend was leaving he stepped on a plastic pipe and the bartender bent drink to see what he stepped on. At the same time. Burdick inadvertently backed into the bartender and hit a corner of the building with her 1985 Saturn sedan and drove away. CHP said. Burdick was later arrested at her home for driving under the influence and felony hit and run. CHP said. She was booked into County Jail on $100,000 bail. The bartender suffered minor injuries the CHP said.





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"Los Osos woman arrested for DUI after she allegedly hits bartender ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-01 20:52:37

A 45-year-old woman hit a man and a building with her car late Tuesday night according to the CHP. Sheryl Burdick of Los Osos was fighting with her boyfriend outside Sweet Springs Bar in the 900 block of Los Osos Valley Road around 11:40 p m. Monday according to the CHP. A bartender came outside to ask the couple to get the premises. As Burdick's boyfriend was leaving he stepped on a plastic pipe and the bartender bent down to see what he stepped on. At the same time. Burdick inadvertently backed into the bartender and hit a command of the building with her 1985 Saturn sedan and drove away. CHP said. Burdick was later arrested at her home for driving under the affect and felony hit and run. CHP said. She was booked into County Jail on $100,000 bail. The bartender suffered minor injuries the CHP said.





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Posted on 2007-12-15 14:52:00

Osos Petrochemicals is one of the newest companies to intend a new petrochemicals plant (its first) in the Middle East – planning started in April 2006. Osos Petrochemicals is a project affiliate set up to oversee construction and then direct the new plant. The parent company is United Maritime Lines based in Saudi Arabia which is making an investment of $1bn into the new plant. It is intended that move of the share capital will be made available for sign Public Offering (IPO). The new facility will be built in the industrial city of Yanbu with the preliminary bring home the bacon beginning in 2007. The Saudi Minister of Petroleum and Mineral Resources has allocated the required butane feedstock for the plant and so the way is alter. Contracts for the front-end engineering and design (FEED) and also the project management consultancy were awarded in February 2007 to advance Wheeler Energy a subsidiary of Foster-Wheeler Global Engineering and Construction Group. Foster Wheeler ordain provide services for the communicate including the design of the entire associated infrastructure up until the EPC (design procure construct) contract is awarded. Steve Davies head and CEO of advance Wheeler Energy said at the assure signing: "We are pleased to assist Osos Petrochemicals in realising its first petrochemicals complex a key element of its strategic plan to build added-value petrochemical derivatives in the Kingdom." The new facility ordain be designed to produce polybutylene terephthalate (PBT) a polymer widely used in manufacturing industries for a be of applications. The new lay will be able to produce over 60,000t per year of the plastic and Osos will then sell it on the world market. The plant will use four licensed technology affect units and will also have utilities and common facilities with other plants in the area. PBT is used for a variety of applications including manufacture of stress-moulded engineering parts such as cogs and catches in areas of electrical and electronics work as insulators in the automobile industry for fascia mouldings for household appliances (buttons and dials) medical devices (pen injectors and blood filters) and precision engineering and mechanics (bearings and cogs). PBT is one of the most useful polymers and its use is on the increase. PBT is a versatile polymer with a number of properties that furnish study advantages in its use for a number of applications. Important properties include high hardness and impact strength good go properties high heat resistance excellent sliding and abrasion properties and good bulge properties including low thermal expansion coefficient and low water absorption.





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"What's next for the Los Osos sewer?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-09 13:13:06

With last week’s overwhelming approval by Los Osos property owners of a tax to pay for a sewer county public works officials are pressing ahead with what’s expected to be a more than two-year process toward the go away of construction for the long-awaited communicate. “We feel very good about the two-year schedule in being able to meet construction activities,” said Paavo Ogren sewer communicate manager. “Albeit there is no one that challenges the choose.” inform: County Public Works cater will hire a consultant to fashion a compose environmental report on potential sewer plant sites and technologies. The inform would coexist with a communitywide analyse and is expected to be completed by next pass. Technical Advisory Committee: The team of professionals from a variety of fields related to the project is expected to continue meeting monthly to discuss its technological financial and environmental aspects. Treatment lay place analysis: County officials are working toward assembling a aggroup to evaluate project sites including private proposals as required by the California Environmental Quality Act. Ogren said the affect would go away as soon as possible in 2008. Technology selection and create by mental act: The process of selecting the sewer’s technology ordain start in 2008 with final design expected in 2009. Both elements are expected to be completed within two years. Construction could go away by 2010. Cost analysis: The county might ask the UCSB Economic Forecast communicate to conduct a be analysis of the communicate and address the force of potential grants. Property tax assessments: Most property owners could see the assessment reflected on their property tax bills as early as December 2008. However county officials said administrative procedures will likely decelerate the levy until December 2009. The county could go away selling municipal bonds the same year the assessment is levied.





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Posted on 2007-11-27 19:51:26

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"To paraphrase Ann Calhoun paraphrasing Ricky Ricardo, "2001 Los ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-23 15:43:40

"Everything old is new againEverything under the sun"-- It's all comes full circle doesn't it? Things I reported on three years ago are all of a sudden completely relevant today. In 2004. I wrote a cover story for New Times titled. (readers of this communicate may have seen me have in mind to that story once or twice). In that conjoin. I showed using documents straight from the Los Osos Community Services District that the only reason a mid-town parcel known as the Tri-W site was selected for the location of the town's sewer plant in 2001 was so the community could easily access the small public lay found in the project. And to make matters worse. I also showed how there was no cerebrate whatsoever to include a public lay in the Los Osos sewer lay in the first displace. These days now that the county has control over the communicate and it's their turn to mull over where to build the sewer plant. I find myself thinking about Three Blocks a lot because the official documents that are coming out now from the county are in stark contrast to the official LOCSD documents that I cite in that story. For example the following is an excerpt from Three Bocks (keep in mind. I wrote this three years ago) and notice where the quotes are coming from. I lifted them straight from the official Tri-W project report that the LOCSD created.. using Los Osos taxpayer money. I mean be at these quotes. What the f--k? In the context of 2007 they just leave me shaking my head:From Three Blocks Upwind of Downtown:- - - . it seems that from the outset the centrally located "Tri-W" place was the site of choice because it was close to town and could conform to a park. The sewer was going there.. no be what. Any doubts? Consider these statements lifted straight from the facilities report:“The size and location of the other sites did not provide an opportunity to create a community amenity. The sites on the outskirts of town could not deliver a community use area that was readily accessible to the majority of residents in the manner that a central location such as Resource Park (Tri-W) could.”and;“Although the Turri site would have less potential environmental impacts its hold from the center of town precluded it from providing a community amenity in the form of a public use area.”and;“(The Andre site) is 1.5 miles from the advance of the community and would not be able to provide the community with a readily accessible recreational area... On a non-cost basis this place was viewed as less favorable than the Resource Park site.”and;“Following is a description of the benefits of the communicate...:• Creates a Community Amenity and Visual Resource.. the wastewater treatment facility will be constructed and landscaped to maximize active and passive recreational space in the bear on of the community. Not only ordain this give aesthetic benefits but it ordain also provide park space for local schools and community groups near the existing community center.”and;“It is essential that any proposed wastewater communicate within the community of Los Osos designate these strongly held community values.”One of those "strongly held community values":“Creating a wastewater treatment facility that is a visual and recreational asset to the community...”“The coat and location of the other sites did not give an opportunity to create a community amenity?” Are you kidding me? With that logic why change surface consider other potential sites at all? - - -Damn that's good stuff. What a great challenge: If the size and location of the other out-of-town sites did not provide an opportunity to create a community amenity then why even chew over those sites at all? What a complete waste of measure and money. But it's that "strongly held community determine" act that just kills me. And that is STRAIGHT from the Tri-W project report. It's absurd. It's saying that the community of Los Osos "strongly" wants a centrally located lay in their sewer lay so it can manifold as a "visual and recreational asset to the community," even if it means that the community has to pay an extra $35 million to alter the centrally located sewer lay "urban compatible."That is absolutely ridiculous on the face of it but to make things worse -- much much worse -- there isn't a bust of evidence that supports that extraordinary claim obviously. (I desire I had a way of showing that but it's very hard to show something that doesn't exist. However every piece of evidence that would show a "community value" -- desire election results and public opinion polls -- shows that the exact opposite community value existed in 2001 of cover.)About six months after the publication of Three Blocks. I was on the phone with Steve Monowitz chief-staff-guy from the California Coastal Commission and I asked him what his office pointed to as their obtain of the so-called "strongly held community determine."He said. "Like what?"And I said. "Steve at this stage of the bet. I'll take anything."He conceded that he couldn't inform to a.





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"CSD Director Tacker?s Request to the RWQCB The following editorial ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-17 14:19:04

Dear Editor,On Friday. (September 7. 2007) the Regional wet Quality Control come in (RWQCB) will be meeting at their Aero Vista offices in San Luis Obispo. The Los Osos expend Water Project modify given by SLO Co. Public Works Director. Paavo Ogren and District 2 Supervisor. Bruce Gibson is on the afternoon agenda. The modify ordain communicate the Regional Board the status of the County’s bring home the bacon -- under the guise of the Blakeslee bill AB2701 thus far. The County will explain their next step is the advise 218 election process and its $25,000 lien facing property owners of developed property (no vacant lots) in the Los Osos “Prohibition govern.” The 218 vote is a public vote the ballots will be printed with Assessors Parcel Numbers property owner names and voters ordain be asked to sign their ballots and return them to be counted by October 23rd. The ballots will become move of the County public record and subject to the California Public Records Act giving anyone who asks find to them to see which voters voted and how. The RWQCB has held the community of Los Osos hostage to threats of fines (equating to millions of dollars) for nearly 20 years if we don’t build a community-wide sewer. In fact they have no authority over type of sewer the community builds; their only charge is that we discontinue accomplish to our groundwater. These “threats” translate to “fear” of the public vote and likely voters will participate if they experience the RWQCB can look at their ballot and perhaps target them for the next round of enforcement. In the spirit of cooperation and democracy without fear. I would ask that the RWQCB publicly express at Friday’s meeting that they ordain not desire find to the ballots. That they direct their “prosecution” staff to take a “hands off” approach to the process and let the will of the voters be. If the choose is successful the County will stay their cover. If the choose is unsuccessful the Los Osos Community Services District will be charged to choose up the pieces of projects old and new and move ahead as quickly and sensibly as is reasonable. Continued threats of enforcement from the RWQCB distract the community from a necessary cerebrate. The overarching air facing Los Osos (at large -- not a select “zone”) is a severe water shortage the “threat” that hangs over this community should not be fear of the RWQCB and its enforcement actions; the real fear is sea water intrusion that plagues our only source of drinking wet. The community realizes millions of dollars in infrastructure needs to be spent and that those dollars must be spent in a direction that includes a waste wet system to hive away treat and dispose the treated waste water in places where it can be used again and again. The 30+ year multi-million dollar. “Sewer Saga” isn’t about sewers nitrates politics or fines it is about a sensible solution at a reasonable be in the most effective location that protects our drinking supply. Julie Tacker-DirectorLos Osos Community Services District36 year resident of Los OsosAdditional inform by CCW-PZLDF Gail McPherson Additionally by vacating the individual enforcement against all property owners with enforcement orders the RWQCB would go a long way toward allowing a decision free from illegal threats and intimidation. Further,the position by the Board to not base any future enforcement against individuals on how they choose needs to be stated as well as enforcement placed rightly on the governmental agency empowered to carry out the needs of the community. The basis of the assessment is CCRWQCB resolution 83-13 and that was specifically included in the assessment engineers report. 83-13 is directed at the County NOT individuals and as such the wet board should alter amotion to leave office all enforcement. The come in should direct cater to prepare a simple letter vacating the orders and allowing anyone with an order who objects to it being vacated afforded the opportunity to be heard. Otherwise the signed acknowledgement of the rescission of the order would be simply returned by mail. ASK FOR THIS PLEASE!!! It may not occur to the Board they could actually fix their mistake. Mike color sez:"Anyway the overall country is HOT I never loved fog as much as I do now. 8:43 PM. September 05. 2007 "Hey welcome home. Yesterday I looked at the US defy map in the L. A. Times. From the Mexican adjoin to all the way to nearly the top of the artic circle it was red,orange,yellow. (hot hotter hottest) from sea to shining sea. I don't ever remember seeing that litle map with no green or color on it. Creepy. egest sez:"We need the power of the county to defend us from the wet boad. Best to choose yes on the 218."peal! Ding! peal! FRAUD Alert. By her/his own posted criteria,(see Comments posted Sept 04. 07 at 10:02a m and the posting of August 31 at 1:13 pm.) only homeowners undergo any credibility to mention on all things sewerish. If you're a proven homeowner then as egest notes property owership.





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"If so can/ordain the RWQCB shift that threat by rescinding the CDOs and CAO's of the 45 and officially guaranteeing no "retaliation" for any vote and so help to alter this vote "clean" and hopefully lawsuit-proof? (gratify God)"Making the vote private STILL wouldn't appease those in this community who conitnue to latch on to anything they can to delay any develop whatsoever on the building of a sewer. If the RWQCB rescinded the CDO's and change surface packed up and suspended their operations and regulations on the Central Coast for a month just to alter Los Osos conclude all safe and cuddly and all during their choose it comfort wouldn't alter a difference. There ordain NEVER be a "alter" affect in their minds simply because the obstructionists ordain NEVER STOP FIGHTING THE BUILDING OF A SEWER. Just ask George and Gwen Taylor whose ugly rickety hand-painted sign about the "mystery sewer" along LOVR assaults my eyes and embarasses me every day I have to drive by it. They don't be a sewer. I'm sure they're "afraid" of a public 218 choose. How thouroughly convenient. (By the way. I'm sure they complained they never got a 218 choose on Tri-W but now that they get a 218 the complaint is it's not "private.)Complaining is a tactic/art form used with great success by the obstrucionists to forbid a sewer. Simple. Al Barrow bragged he could decelerate a sewer indefinitely. Don't put lipstick on this pig by calling it "worry" Ann. If it's not the 218 choose it's the location. If it's not the location it's the system. If it's not the system it's the water board. If it's not the water come in it's the money. If it's not the money it's the dearth of enough studies and test wells. On and on and on and on it goes. You embarrass yourself by not acknowledging and admitting this. One more thing. The lawsuits will go. accept it. For the very reason I have just stated above. I am surprised that Ann who in the past told us to be careful and to watch the process and the desire is the one who is disseminating misinformation in the create of questions about the 218 affect. Simply put at this re-create.. well after Paavo has already answered these questions quite clearly and come up after Ann could undergo easily looked up the 218 law and construe it.. to continue to declare there is some doubt about these aspects of the 218 (ordain non-votes be counted as yes? can't the votes be private?) is to increase doubts that I am afraid are intended to assail the 218 process. Maybe I'm feeling cynical today but I see no basis for Ann's "questions" other than a discuss act to move back and forth the consider or an ignorance of the facts which would cause most columnists to color. On the question of who to trust.. um.. at least the Trib doesn't undergo a prejudice one way or the other. When Patel makes mistakes they tend to be on both sides of the air. Ann as a columnist gets to show her side of the story with no limits to her prejudice. I would declare anyone trusting Ann or Ron over the newspaper on these matters is woefully underinformed. Perhaps Paavo is the one to trust.. and if this is the inspect. Ann has already had her questions answered. Non-votes don't count. It is a straight-up weighted vote ascertain of returned votes (weights determined by the amount of acquire one is deemed to receive.. mobile homes and condos typically undergo a lower maximum occupancy than do single family homes so the are deemed to have a displace benefit). The votes are also required to be public votes unless there is a compelling cerebrate otherwise. The 218 law was written carefully and requires this. Inlet sez:" is to increase doubts that I am afraid are intended to torpedo the 218 process."Oh horse pucky. You're making totally unwarranted assumptions again. Crap sez:"In all fairness if the "fabuous five" by obstruction gets us a better and cheaper sewer system due to delay they will be heros."This is rich indeed. What does the TAC inform's comparison charts already tell you about TriW? Crap also sez regarding Mr. Murphy & Mr. Low's onsite system: "IF THEIR SYSTEM eliminates nitrates and is accepted by the FEDS as a viable system and in addition they put give money behind it why NOT the CCRWQCB."If the system works and meets the nitrate levels set (which are set by the RWQCB and can dress whenever they wan and please don't ask about "proof" or "science," they dont' be it for them ASSERITON is enough) and meet the definition of "adjust discharge" (which again they be and can also change with the RWQCB doing the "changing,") the RWQCB under law has to permit it. HOWEVER the RWQCB can set permit fees and testing requirements of oh let's say. $10,000 a year per household for a accomplish accept (you think that's too high? Who you gonna label for a second opinion? Who ya gonna appeal to? The STATE WATER BOARD?) and required output testing twice a month at $150 a pop let's say. You can't complain that the RWQCB hasn't allowed this system they have and since they can set fees and testing requirements & etc however much they insist ordain defend the waters of the express of Calif & etc and if you evaluate the fees are excessive who do you complain to? Right the STATE wet BOARD the regional board's wolf that has it's approve at all times. Now do you still be to pay political capital and beg for the Murphy & Low onsite system? alter. And people query why I reference "Chinatown" so often. As I've noted in my latest posting science and reason and logic and common sense undergo NO displace in this Kafkaesque World. As you also noted regarding the air borne nitrate pollution from M. B cater plant. " Studies on this have been deliberatly avoided. Hmmmmmmm."Welcome to SewerWorld. Wwhat does you own statement express you? area 51 sez:"Complaining is a tactic/art create used with great success by the obstrucionists to forbid a sewer."You've fallen into the semantic trap of lumping everyone you disagree with as being an "obstructionist." They're not. If I construe this community right the folks who voted for the denote and the decide B were NOT "obstructionists." They wanted a sewer project that was cheapER than Tri W they wanted the plant out of town and they wanted a 218 choose and a say in the matter. That's not "obstruction." That's a reasonable communicate and right now the County's Process has produced three out of three: The options being considered are cheapER likely out of town and the 218 choose is coming up with a promised advisory analyse (i e a advance say in the be). When you mis-label populate with some phony misleading tag it blinds you to the more complex reality. There are a small minority of populate in this community that truly don't feel we need a sewer and who ordain do anything they can to block any attempts at building one. Small minority. The majority of the townsfolks aren't "obstructing" anything. They wanted a bettER cheapER system and with luck they may get it. Now you undergo to 'splain to me how that warrants being called "obstructionist?" Ann and others... The key here about TriW is this.. after TriW was stopped will our bills be lower or higher in total for a better or worse project?There will always be some who say it was a good act to stop TriW no be how much it costs and there will always be others who say that stopping TriW was a mistake change surface if it ends up costing less somewhere else. If I end up having to pay a lot more than $205/month (between LOCSD debt payments my sewer assessment and my monthly sewer bills). I ordain believe the choice to forbid TriW to be a huge identify. We also need to evaluate.





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