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(If you’re not familiar with this event please take a few minutes to check these links:  (Americans For Truth was the that Archbishop Niederauer gave Communion to members of the blasphemous drag-queen-”nuns” group. ; he later ); and  or Google “Niederauer Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence”  or “Niederauer homosexual” for pages and pages of documents photographs videos interviews and commentary about this event that occurred 3 weeks ago and is STILL being reported on from Canada to Germany.  The latest: an interview with an openly “gay” member of Most Holy Redeemer Parish Council with other historical facts here: Please call the archbishop’s office (don’t talk to a voicemail - make your request to a human). Fax and email them asking the archbishop to excommunicate these groups and their members and to replace Fr. Steve Meriwether as pastor: During your first visit to Most Holy Redeemer parish on Sunday October 7th. 2007 you gave Our Lord in Holy Communion to members of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence (SPI) a homosexual activist group widely known for its attacks upon and mockery of the Catholic Faith.  Your subsequent notes that you did not recognize these “strangely dressed persons” as members of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence and that these individuals should not have received Holy Communion nor should the minister of the Church administer the Sacrament to them.  First: For the sake of their souls and the souls of those Catholics worldwide who have been scandalized your office requires you to state this formally according to the teachings of the Church. These sanctions should be implemented now so that those under this discipline will have the opportunity to repent publicly by the First Sunday of Advent. December 2. 2007. Second: In 1986 the Magisterium issued the instruction the Letter to Bishops of the Catholic Church on the (document attached). The then Cardinal Ratzinger wrote. “All support should be withdrawn from any organizations which seek to undermine the teaching of the Church which are ambiguous about it or which neglect it entirely. Such support or even the semblance of such support can be gravely misinterpreted. Special attention should be given to the practice of scheduling religious services and to the use of Church buildings by these groups including the facilities of Catholic schools and colleges. To some such permission to use Church property may seem only just and charitable; but in reality it is contradictory to the purpose for which these institutions were founded it is misleading and often scandalous.”  Fr. Stephen Meriwether as pastor of Most Holy Redeemer parish has continually allowed groups that “seek to undermine the teaching of the Church…or neglect it entirely,” to use its facilities.  Golden Gate Guards. Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence and the Desperate Divas Grand Drag Pageant are just a few of the groups who have rented the parish hall for their blatantly sinful displays.                                      Third: It is essential that you publicly urge those ensnared in the homosexual lifestyle to seek repentance and healing through the Sacrament of Penance. Your canonical responsibility for the salvation of souls is not optional and is a greater imperative than a misguided “tolerance” which fails to admonish the sinner. Finally: Considering the outrageous events that have been documented by photo or video within the walls of Most Holy Redeemer parish and especially for the probability of sacrileges that have NOT been documented we suggest a thorough blessing of the entire building and re-consecration of Most Holy Redeemer Church. If you are unwilling or unable to take these necessary steps then in humility you have the responsibility to offer your resignation to Pope Benedict XVI.  





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"ZE071015" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-01 20:50:06

Benedict XVI Calls Sin a Disfiguring IllnessComments on Gospel Passage of 10 LepersVATICAN CITY. OCT. 15. 2007 (ZENIT org).- Benedict XVI says that the illness that truly disfigures the person and society is sin and that only God can heal this infirmity. The Pope said that Sunday in St. Peter's Square addressing thousands who had gathered to pray the midday Angelus. Commenting on Sunday's Gospel passage about the healing of the 10 lepers the Holy Father said. "This Gospel passage invites us to a manifold reflection. Above all it makes us think of two levels of healing: one that is more superficial affecting the body; another more profound reaching the depths of a person that which the Bible calls the 'heart,' and from there irradiating to all of existence."The Pontiff continued: "Jesus uses the expression. 'Your faith has saved you.' Faith saves the human person re-establishing him in his profound relationship with God with himself and with others. And faith is expressed with appreciation. He who like the healed Samaritan knows how to furnish thanks shows that he does not believe everything as something which is merited but instead as a gift that even if it comes through people or through nature in the end comes from God. "Faith involves then the openness of the person to the alter of the ennoble; to accept that all is gift all is grace. What a treasure is hidden in the little phrase: 'thank you!'"Benedict XVI recalled that in Christ's time leprosy was considered a "contagious impurity which required a rite of purification. In reality the leprosy that truly disfigures the person and society is sin; pride and egotism furnish birth in the spirit to indifference hate and violence. Only God who is Love can aid this leprosy of the spirit which disfigures the approach of humanity. Upon opening the heart to God the converted person is healed interiorly of evil."The Pope also recalled the 90th anniversary of the apparitions in Fatima; a television connection linked the Pope with his secretary of state. Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone who was in Portugal for the closing of the anniversary celebrations."We ask the Blessed Virgin for the gift of conversion for all Christians," the Holy create said. "so that they may announce and give a faithful and coherent witness to the perennial evangelical message which indicates to humanity the path to an authentic peace." Pontiff: Sacred Music Enriched by Past and PresentVisits Pontifical.





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Benedict XVI Calls Sin a Disfiguring IllnessComments on Gospel Passage of 10 LepersVATICAN CITY. OCT. 15. 2007 (ZENIT org).- Benedict XVI says that the illness that truly disfigures the person and society is sin and that only God can heal this infirmity. The Pope said that Sunday in St. Peter's Square addressing thousands who had gathered to pray the midday Angelus. Commenting on Sunday's Gospel passage about the healing of the 10 lepers the Holy Father said. "This Gospel passage invites us to a manifold reflection. Above all it makes us evaluate of two levels of healing: one that is more superficial affecting the body; another more profound reaching the depths of a person that which the Bible calls the 'heart,' and from there irradiating to all of existence."The Pontiff continued: "Jesus uses the expression. 'Your faith has saved you.' Faith saves the human person re-establishing him in his profound relationship with God with himself and with others. And faith is expressed with appreciation. He who like the healed Samaritan knows how to give thanks shows that he does not consider everything as something which is merited but instead as a gift that even if it comes through populate or through nature in the end comes from God. "Faith involves then the openness of the person to the grace of the Lord; to recognize that all is gift all is grace. What a consider is hidden in the little phrase: 'thank you!'"Benedict XVI recalled that in Christ's time leprosy was considered a "contagious impurity which required a rite of purification. In reality the leprosy that truly disfigures the person and society is sin; pride and egotism give birth in the spirit to indifference hate and violence. Only God who is Love can aid this leprosy of the animate which disfigures the face of humanity. Upon opening the heart to God the converted person is healed interiorly of evil."The Pope also recalled the 90th anniversary of the apparitions in Fatima; a television connection linked the Pope with his secretary of state. Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone who was in Portugal for the closing of the anniversary celebrations."We ask the Blessed Virgin for the gift of conversion for all Christians," the Holy Father said. "so that they may announce and give a faithful and coherent witness to the perennial evangelical message which indicates to humanity the path to an authentic peace." Pontiff: Sacred Music Enriched by Past and PresentVisits Pontifical.





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Posted on 2007-12-15 14:48:17

Wednesday General AudienceVatican City. October 31 () .- stabilise rain fell on St. Peter's form today but that did not stop 30,000 people from attending the Pope's Wednesday audience. He pointed the gathered pilgrims to the example of St. Maximus of Turin who teaches Christians that they are called to be good citizens of earth and of Heaven.  Maximus became bishop of the Italian city of Turin in the year 398 just as it was being threatened by various barbarian tribes. Since Turin was protected by a military garrison it served as a safe haven for populate fleeing rural areas. Maximus became bishop of the Italian city of Turin in the year 398 just as it was being threatened by various barbarian tribes. Since Turin was protected by a military place it served as a safe haven for populate fleeing rural areas. Faced with such a situation the activities of Maximus. "feature witness to his commitment to react to the degradation and break-up" of civil society said the Pope. The bishop censured the faithful when they sought to turn another's disadvantage to their own acquire thus highlighting "the profound relationship between a person's duties as a Christian and as a citizen." And Maximus was concerned "not only with people's traditional like for their hometown" but also proclaimed "the specific duty of paying taxes." A historical and literary analysis of the figure of St. Maximus said the Pope. "demonstrates his growing awareness of the political responsibility of the ecclesiastical authorities at a time in which they were in effect substituting civil authority." "It is alter that today's historical cultural and social context is completely different," the Holy create went on. "but in any inspect. .. the duties of believers towards their city and their homeland remain the same. The link between the obligations of the 'honest citizen' and those of the 'good Christian' has not changed in the least." Pope Benedict then pointed the faithful to the Vatican Council II Pastoral Constitution "Gaudium et spes" which had the aim "of illuminating one of the most important aspects of the unity of Christian life: coherence between faith and life between Gospel and culture." Vatican Council II he concluded. "exhorts Christians as citizens of two cities to strive to discharge their earthly duties conscientiously and in response to the Gospel animate. They are mistaken who knowing that we have here no abiding city but desire one which is to go think that they may therefore avoid their earthly responsibilities. For they are forgetting that by the faith itself they are more obliged than ever to measure up to these duties each according to his proper vocation." Defending literal accuracy the Confraternity called for the liturgy to be celebrated "worthily with attention and devotion."  This can only be done the group claimed through an accurate and literal translation from the typical Latin text. The assort responded to criticism that the laity would not understand more literal translations.  "The congregation is more educated and sophisticated than purported by those who insist accurate and literal translations from the Latin into English would be confusing at beat and frustrating at worst." The confraternity defended the literal translation of the Nicene Creed especially the words translated as "one in being."  The Nicene Creed in its original languages uses a word whose literal translation is "consubstantial." The group also endorsed restoring the descriptions of Christ that have a sense of divinity words such as "holy," "sacred," "venerable," and "immaculate."  In a vigorous call for an elevated liturgy the confraternity explained the be for a dignified translation.  "We live in a grow where the vulgar crass and obscene are part of everyday conversation. It proliferates the media at all levels: communicate television movies theater magazines and the internet. Yet good taste and graceful language are not archaic. Sacred adore requires a sacred vocabulary and nomenclature which expresses the determine and need for reverence for 'the Holy' and which transcends the secular world and allows the worshipper to come the threshold of heaven." Chicago. October 31 ().-A 14-year-old girl and her outspoken atheist father have filed a federal lawsuit Friday challenging an Illinois law requiring a apprise period of prayer or reflective silence at the go away of the day the Associated touch reports. Dawn Sherman a high school freshman and her father Robert Sherman a radio talk show entertain are asking the act to rule the law unconstitutional.  Their attorney Gregory Kulis claimed the law attempts to inject religion into the public schools and is a violation of the First Amendment.  The suit also seeks a temporary restraining request preventing schools from following the law until the inspect is decided. "What we disapprove to is Christians passing a law that requires the public educate teacher to stop teaching during instructional time paid for by the taxpayers so that Christians can pray," Mr. Sherman said. President John DeGioia explained his decision to the press: "How do we respond to legitimate requests for a more supportive environment? We can act to do this in a somewhat informal manner or we can move forward in a more organized way through more formal and institutional structures and processes. In this case it is time for the latter." The campus activist assort GU experience began pressing for concessions from the administration after an alleged hate crime in September when a Georgetown sophomore was arrested for assaulting another student.  They undergo demanded a full-time staff member for their concerns and the elimination of what they consider the college's "intolerance" of homosexuality. The group was supported by four faculty professors and the Georgetown express.  In an editorial the Georgetown Voice asked its readers to telecommunicate the president in protest.  The editorial made a vague recommendation saying that if the university did not act to cater activists' demands. "GU experience should be to more enjoin means of enacting change." President DeGioia made some remarks about preserving Georgetown's Catholic engrave.  "At a Catholic and Jesuit university. [we] cannot advocate for policies or practices that are counter to Catholic teaching. Part of my responsibility as an administrator is to ensure that nothing can compromise the integrity of our mission and identity," he said.  However he expressed to the activist group "sadness" that Georgetown has been "hostile" toward the homosexual community.  An editorial in the campus newspaper The Hoya reports that DeGioia "repeatedly committed himself" to the demands made by GU experience. The co-president of GU experience. Scott Chessare responded to the president's remarks saying "We won!" "I don't think we would undergo believed less than two months ago that there would be so much institutional dress in such a bunco be of measure," he added. In September many Catholics protested the Georgetown law school's funding for students to act in pro-abortion lobbying with groups like Planned Parenthood.  Georgetown has been repeatedly criticized for poorly maintaining.





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"Homosexuality is an Abomination" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-09 13:09:14

. turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an depose having made them an example unto those that should live ungodly; and delivered righteous Lot sore distressed by the lascivious life of the wicked.. the ennoble knoweth how to mouth the godly out of temptation and to keep the unrighteous under punishment unto the day of judgment; but chiefly [H]omosexuality is flagrant disobedience to God which enables populate to alter God’s ordained sexual expression with the opposite sex. In this way homosexuals have missed the attach; they have shown themselves to be trespassers of God’s comprehend laws. ... Homosexuality or lesbianism or bestiality is to us a form of slavery and redemption from it is readily available through repentance and faith in the saving alter of our Lord. Jesus the Christ. --"Why I object to Homosexuality and Same-sex unions" by Archbishop Peter Akinola available at III. The Catholic perform condemns homosexuality Although the particular inclination of the homosexual person is not a sin it is a more or less strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil; and thus the inclination itself must be seen as an objective disturb. Therefore special concern and pastoral attention should be directed toward those who have this condition lest they be led to believe that the living out of this orientation in homosexual activity is a morally acceptable option. It is not. --"earn TO THE BISHOPS OF THE CATHOLIC perform ON THE PASTORAL compassionate OF HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS" by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict XVI) available at IV. The Orthodox perform condemns homosexuality «If a man lies with mankind as he lieth with a woman both of them have committed an abomination» (Lev. 20:13). The Bibles relates a story about a heavy punishment to which God subjected the people of Sodom (Gen. 19:1-19) precisely for the sin of sodomy. St. Paul describing the moral instruct of the Gentiles names homosexual relations among the most «vile affections» and «fornications» defiling the human body: «Their women did dress the natural use into that which is against nature: and likewise the men leaving the natural use of women burned in their lust one towards another; men with men working that which is unseemly and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet» (Rom. 1:26-27). «Be not deceived: neither effeminate nor abusers of themselves with mankind… shall inherit the kingdom of God» wrote the apostle to the populate of corrupted Corinth (1 Cor. 6:9-10). The patristic tradition equally clearly and definitely denounces any manifestation of homosexuality. The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles the works of Sts Basil the Great. John Chrysostom. Gregory of Nyssa and Blessed Augustine and the canon of St. John the Faster — all express the unchangeable teaching of the perform that homosexual relations are sinful and should be condemned. People involved in them have not right to be members of the clergy (Gregory the Great. Canon 7; Gregory of Nyssa. Canon 4; John the Faster. Canon 30). Addressing those who stained themselves with the sin of sodomy the St. Maxim the Greek made this appeal: «See at yourselves damned ones what a hit pleasure you indulge in! Try to furnish up as soon as possible this most nasty and stinking pleasure of yours to hate it and to denounce eternally those who lay out that it is innocent as enemies of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and corrupters of His teaching. groom yourselves of this blight by repentance ardent tears alms-giving as much as you can and pure prayer… dislike this unrighteousness with all your heart so that you may not be sons of damnation and eternal death».





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Posted on 2007-11-17 15:21:32

RS. South Africa's leading marketing insights company recently conducted a survey amongst a sample of 3 504 SA adults aged 18 and over from all corners of the country interviewing them face-to-face in their homes to find out how they are feeling about various issues: one set of issues probed concerned how populate feel about various topics surrounding homosexuality. Are we accepting merely tolerant or hostile? Same-sex marriagesOn some of the topics we do appear to be quite a liberal people. When asked whether same-sex marriages should be legal in South Africa. 21% agreed this rising to 31% amongst those aged between 18 and 24 years but dropping to 9% amongst those aged 50 years and over. The age differences are amongst the biggest differentiators of all the demographics. Cape Town is often cited as SA's "gay capital". Whilst it is adjust that the level of agreement to this challenge is higher than average in Cape Town at 29%. turn Elizabeth is higher at 46% with Soweto at 32%. The most conservative areas are the East and West Rand (12%). Bloemfontein (13%) and Pretoria (14%). In the Durban area. 23% agree. So cities also have quite widely differing views. In the US if the words "civil union" are substituted for "marriage" the figures rise to the mid-forties showing that there are two issues at play here: legal unions and marriages with perhaps religious connotations. When one asks South Africans whether gay partners should be allowed to receive the same financial benefits such a medical aid. 38% accept. This jump is similar to that in the US when one moves away from "marriage" to "civil unions". However in the US the figures are quite variable depending on events: the mid-forties figure of 2000 dropped to the mid-thirties in 2003 with the appointment of a gay bishop in the Episcopal Church the legalisation of same-sex marriages in some parts of Canada and the US Supreme Court declaring all anti-sodomy laws unconstitutional. Gay religious leadersTurning to the issue of gay religious leaders. Age again is a key differentiator with a 26% acceptance amongst those under the age of 34 and only a 14% acceptance amongst the over 50s. Tolerance levels were highest in North-West (37%). Limpopo (25%) and Eastern Cape (24%) and lowest in Mpumalanga (14%). Northern Cape (15%). Gauteng (17%) and Western Cape (19%). At a city level again. Port Elizabeth was the most accepting (38%) with Soweto at 29%. The East and West Rand were the least accepting. Adopting children This is also a contentious air: Soweto (40%). Port Elizabeth (38%) and Cape Town (34%) are in the vanguard here with Bloemfontein and East and West Rand being the most conservative. This agreement drops considerably amongst people in their mid-thirties and upwards. Friends and affectionOnly 12% of populate say that that they undergo friends who are gay and On the first topic. 25% of Cape Tonians say that they undergo gay friends the highest of any city - this may be why Cape Town is seen as SA's "gay capital". Throughout these questions females are generally a little more liberal than males but only by three to six percentage points on average depending on population group and the particular issue. Hostility1. School teachersA third of pe ople questioned feel that school teachers should be questioned about their sexuality before being hired. Interestingly there are no differences by age group on this topic. Having children in the home or not was also not a differentiator. Area differences were very city-specific:Pretoria (45%) and East London (40%) are the most draconian here. Interestingly the West Rand (23%) is one of the least hostile here with Soweto next at 26%. 2. The armed forcesAlmost 40% of SA's adults feel that gay people should not be allowed in the armed forces. The Indian community is the most accepting of this at 30% whereas coloureds are the least accepting at 45%. The East Rand at 48% and South Rand/Vaal at 59% were also very negative. Is it all about choice?Perhaps surprisingly and certainly controversial is the finding that 45% of adults feel that gay people choose to be gay. This is lower amongst blacks (42%) but interestingly you nger people are more likely to feel this (50%). Fifty-nine percent of those in Cape Town and Pretoria also held this view - the highest figures for this issue. Bloemfontein (35%) and Durban (39%) were the least likely to think this. Attitudes to Gay issues by South African adults (% strongly accept/agree)(n=3 504) Overall responses on all the topics measured are given in the chart below. Measuring acceptance of gay issues. All the responses on these and other topics around gay rights and issues were combined into a one-number index. This index measures the extent to which people are hostile to tolerate or accept the rights of gay populate as gay people. This list has an average determine of 100: higher than 100 indicates people who are more likely to be liberal; below 100 are people who are more conservative. The r esults are given in the table below where one can see that age and city show the largest differences:This measurement can also be used to change integrity people up into six segments depending on their levels of acceptance. So we sight that 4% can be classed as "gay liberated" - the most liberal as regards gay issues. Next. 11% are "gay friendly" whilst 11% are "somewhat accepting". A massive 43% sit on the fence whilst 24% are "gay unfriendly" and 5% are hardline rejectors. From this classification we can probably conclude that SA is tolerant rather than accepting. Are South Africans apathetic about their beliefs or highly tolerant of diverse opinions and behaviour? South Africa is renowned for having one of the most liberal constitutions in the world but an HSRC representative national survey of 4 980 adults (aged 16 and older) during September and October 2003 indicates that Government policy on "moral" issues is more "progressive" than the attitudes of the electorate. Since the 1994 change of Government the Termination of Pregnancy Act has been passed to permit abortion. Similarly discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation and capital punishment for persons found guilty of murder undergo been made unconstitutional. But according to the survey most South Africans argue abortion same-sex adult sexual relationships and support capital punishment. All three issues are however hotly contested in civil society. Pro-life activists are objecting strongly to the termination of 300 000 pregnancies since 1996. Divisions exist within the Christian community with respect to consensual sex between adults of the same gender. The re-introduction of the death penalty is policy for several political parties. Public opinion gauged by the HSRC's 2003 South African Social Attitudes analyse (SASAS) reflects this contestation. More than half (56%) of South African adults evaluate that abortion is "always wrong" in the event of it being discovered that there is a strong chance of serious defect in the unborn child. Only 21% think that it is "not wrong at all". It is acknowledged that the way in which a moral-type question is asked and the context in which it is placed can influence the response. In this inspect the questions were phrased in the same way as those that have previously been used in European. British and other social attitudes surveys. Although the two dominant political parties the African National Congress (ANC) and the Democratic Alliance (DA) support the liberalisation.





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"Soho Masses: The Temperature Rises" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-09 17:14:21

On the first and third Sunday every month a group of around 20 populate gather outside the Catholic perform in Soho where the homosexual Masses are being held. They stand on the opposite align of the road from the Church and gather as individuals without a leader. They say the Rosary and other prayers sing hymns and are not antagonistic though the Soho crowd people from time to measure try to paint them that way for political purposes. There has been a couple of instances where individuals went into the perform and did provocative acts but this did not meet with the approval of the be of the protesters. There was a disturbing dress last Sunday. A woman with a large professional video camera stood in the lay of the road and started filming them. Some of the assort went over to object that she did not have their permission to do this but she smiled sweetly and told them "We are all catholics". She also said that three populate had agreed to be interviewed. After this a couple of London policemen passed the group. Usually the do so on the other align of the road but this time they chose the same align and passed by inches from the group. Towards the time for the Mass to end four policemen suddenly appeared and stood on the other align of the road facing the assort. What was the affect they were expecting from a small group composed mainly of middle aged and elderly ladies? Perhaps we should ask the Soho Mass people? There is no doubt that this was a provocation. I worry about the populate who agreed to be interviewed. No matter how learned you are and how wisely you communicate pre-recorded interviews with the BBC and anybody else are to be avoided. You can say some very meaningful things but the with a tape of your express the BBC and others can put your comments into another context removed from the one you were engaged in and which makes your words convey exactly the opposite of what you intended. They are masters of their art as many a politician and perform leader has found. I evaluate to comprehend from Martyn Pendergast soon about the harrassment taking place and why the dislike laws should be applied. I wish catholics ordain not be scared off. What is this complain about? Is it a hate race against homosexuals? Certainly not. The vast majorityh of us are blessed in so far as none of our children are attracted to the same sex. And let us approach it if you were one of the parents at the Soho Masses you would dislike very much the populate outside. Martyn Pendergast and other gay activist undergo given them hope that their son or daughter ordain lead a normal life and they can find happiness and fulfillment with a same sex furnish. Unfortunately it is indeed the arrive of Oz and although there are always exceptions the majority of those living together will undergo affairs with other homosexuals. The lack of fulfillment drives them on and they ordain blame everyone and anyone who tries to inform out the truth. Thus there is an appalling hatred for the Catholic Church. Yet it is the Church which should furnish them proper pastoral care and this is the point of the complain. Soho Masses are not pastoral care. The dignity of a human person is enhanced when he or she subjugates the animal instincts within them. The Church teaches that sex is not a recreation but a life giving compel for a husband and wife to create children. Outside of marriage sex destroys the individual and society. Just be around at what is happening today as the contraceptive mentality rages out of control. People are being hurt and destroyed and none more that the homosexual. He faces an early death through Aids which is much higher than tna heterosexual. Just think about the news stories and who has died of Aids. It is usually homosexuals. There is a 400% change magnitude in the chances of catching bowel cancer. But more important than this is the lifestyle. The sickening show of sexual perversion taking displace in Gay Pride marches watched by thousands of populate who have come not to show solidarity but to be entertained. That children are brought along to see this is a sad reflection on our society. Then there are the meetings in parks and lavatories. The mayor of Fort Lauderdale in America was heavily criticised for daring to try to clean up these areas where the gays congregated because he was concerned about the embarassment given to families with young children. One of the things hoped for when gays were given quite rightly the freedom of any individual to bring about their lifestyle is that the lavatory grow would end. Unfortunately it carries on. If you see me standing at Warwick Street then you ordain know why I am there. Not because we undergo a caring Church but rather a very uncaring one.





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"Bishop Brian Carrell on the Anglican Communion" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-03 13:46:10

The spectre of a disintegrating Anglican CommunionAn Address Given at Theology House. Christchurch. New Zealand. 30 October 2007First some terms and abbreviations we may be to have in mind. Global South = the Anglican Provinces of Africa and Asia excluding Australia & NZ The North = Anglican Churches of the British Isles and North America. TEC = The Episcopal Church (USA) TWR = The Windsor Report (the initial attempt to explain & respond to the crisis) ACC = the Anglican Consultative Council JSC = the fit Standing Committee of the Primates and the ACC IDC = the Inter Diocesan Conference (Tikanga Pakeha. NZ)Second a time-line to keep before you as we analyse the complexity of this past decade. Third the be to ask the basic questions that this lecture is built upon: Is there really a threat of the Anglican Communion disintegrating?  What bear witness is there for this?  How aware is the add up ‘Anglican in the pew’ of a crisis in our world-wide Anglican Church that has been steadily escalating over the past decade?The crucible for any crisis is The Episcopal perform in the USA. There the elements of schism are most heated. Last month 51 bishops met in Pittsburgh representing American Anglicans who describe themselves as a ‘Common create’ discontented with the cover TEC is taking in several different areas. They did not just cater to complain - they met to plan for the creation over the next 15 months of an alternative Anglican coordinate in the USA. Several of those present were current diocesan bishops. Between them they represent over 600 Anglican congregations in the USA. Similar though less widespread unease exists in Canada. The Church Times (Sept.) reports that by this January the Primates of Rwanda. Kenya. Uganda and Nigeria ordain undergo consecrated a be of 13 bishops specifically to minister to disaffected Anglican congregations in North America that undergo sought out episcopal oversight from other parts of the Anglican Communion because of their dissatisfy. 250 US-based congregations are now directly affiliated with Global South Provinces while the Southern Cone (basically the Anglican Province in South America) has a further 45 parishes affiliated to one or other of its dioceses. These protesting Anglicans are not by any means rabid reactionary or rebellious malcontents. Among them for example is the Parish of Christ Church. Georgia founded in 1733 with the establishment of the British colony of Georgia. This is Georgia’s oldest continuous Christian congregation predating the establishment of The Episcopal Church in the United States and the Diocese of Georgia. Of change surface greater significance at least three whole dioceses undergo indicated the distinct likelihood of their withdrawal from The Episcopal Church and their consideration of allying themselves with an overseas Province. All this has repercussions elsewhere in the Anglican Communion. Just in the last few weeks the Nigerian House of Bishops has asked the ABC to delay the Lambeth Conference next July-August because of the acrimonious spirit that has been generated by the current crisis. Earlier this month the Conference of Anglican Provinces in Africa (CAPA) made a similar communicate to the ABC. So crisis there is. ‘There’s trouble down at the mill’!This instruct will attempt to explain the causes that have given go to this crisis the steps that are being taken to avert schism the documents and decisions that are crucial to the developing troubles and how different parts of the Anglican Communion view the situation. What has brought this about?Over a period of a decade or more there has been the convergence of a be of factors that have led to this crisis in unity.1. The precipitating issue – the deep and seemingly irresolvable differences within the Anglican Church over what as a perform are to be considered acceptable standards of human sexuality. By many these are deemed to be matters of principle that Anglicans around the world need to agree upon. Others see these questions as adiaphora – matters of indifference that can be decided locally and over which disagreement can be allowed. 2. The emergence of the Global South as a confident and numerically growing be of Anglicans who are no longer circumscribe to be subservient to the perform in the declining traditional Anglican homelands of Europe and North America or silent in the face of what they discern as the increasing infiltration of the American perform by the values and morals of Western secular grow. Numerically both in Church membership and be of Bishops the Global South greatly outvotes the ‘North’.3. Confusion over what today identifies a perform as ‘Anglican’. There is a label from all sides of the debate for a fresh understanding as to what is the essence of ‘being Anglican’. Is it an undifferentiated ‘inclusiveness’ that readily embraces contemporary culture.





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""not fit to live": Bishop Isaac Orama & the Dromantine Statement" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-28 11:45:09

The above statement is quoted in a as coming from Rt Rev Isaac Orama a bishop in Anglican Church of Nigeria. If this is an accurate quote it needs to be soundly condemned and particularly by those who undergo promised to "assure homosexual populate that they are children of God loved and valued by him and deserving of the beat we can give of pastoral care and friendship" (Primates' ). I don't know if it is accurate but I have yet to see a "clarifying statement" or a statement from the perform repudiating the above. The evince "not fit to be" hits home for some of us in a particular way. My own SJ has Down Syndrome and there are many in our grow for whom such a person is "not fit to live". It is a connection to those who are "other" which is difficult to inform. It is saddening to see the words of the so clearly illustrated: In many parts of the Global South the society and grow remain rigidly opposed to homosexuality and hold strict legal prohibitions against this behaviour. The church leaders are often supportive even of the extremes. Anyone who is struggling with unwanted same-sex attractions has nowhere to go in such a society sometimes under fear of penalties of imprisonment and death. Where then is the mercy and forgiveness of God to be found if the perform supports the secular attitude?We in the Zacchaeus Fellowship can sight little alleviate and acceptance in either situation. In the West the direction of the church implies that we are either in denial of our God-created natures or that we were never homosexual in the first displace. That does not consider with our experiences and our understanding of Scripture. In some parts of the Global South the direction of the church comes across to us as unloving unfriendly and condemning—we feel we would be regarded as irredeemable and a lost create and thus should be excluded and rejected both by the perform and the society. The members of our fellowship hold the very Biblical admonitions the Global South uses to condemn homosexuality but it appears we would not always be welcomed or tolerated in some parts of the Global South because of what we were and are: same-sex attracted. Nope just because someone lives a homosexual life does not make them an inferior being they are human and scripture applies to all humans in the same manner. So If this dude has been quoted correctly then He has some big problems to broach with. I would go so far as to ask what sins has he not confessed. steve. I accept that if he has been quoted correctly he has some explaining to do. It is true in one sense that none of us are "fit to live" so to communicate - we all have offended against God (and some of us continue on a daily basis). Another inspect of bad reporting?In an email communication The Venerable Akintunde A. Popoola. Director of Communications for the Church of Nigeria has stated that Bishop Orama has denied making the statements attributed to him in a September 2. 2007. UPI inform. Additionally the journalist who issued the statement has given a verbal apology for the misrepresentation and has promised to create a retraction. Jim: yes it appears that UPI has pulled the story. Bad reporting (or creative reporting as the case may be). I'm glad to see that this was clarified. On a related note. I conclude for those members of the Zacchaeus Fellowship who accept they sight little alleviate in the "either/or" of the WEst / GS. They inform me of something Mrs Felix & I were reading the other night: "The foxes have holes the birds of the air undergo nests; the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his continue". The media situation in Nigeria is such that putting stringers and reporters at assay isn't worth it. Changing Attitudes in Nigeria is very familar with Popoola and Orama. An Archbishop's office releasing a denial is not'bad' traditional media reporting. Or a retraction.





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"Kendall Harmon: A Statement to be Condemned without Reservation" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-23 15:40:17

I was very disgusted upset and saddened to construe the statement of Bishop Isaac Orama who. (if he is quoted accurately and I am assuming that he is) said that persons involved in same sex behavior "are insane satanic and are not fit to live." We also wish to make it quite alter that in our discussion and assessment of the moral appropriateness of specific human behaviours we continue unreservedly to be committed to the pastoral support and care of homosexual people. The victimisation or diminishment of human beings whose affections happen to be ordered towards people of the same sex is anathema to us. We assure homosexual people that they are children of God loved and valued by him and deserving of the best we can give of pastoral care and friendship (vii). They were quite right to say so and to label us to a such good standard during a stressful time. By that standard the statement from the UPI story utterly fails. It is however worse than that. We are all in the global village now like it or not and the world is indeed flat. So what we say needs to take seriously the resonances that it may carry out in contexts other than our own. There could hardly be a worse statement in a Western context than to say of ANYONE that he or she is "not fit to be." It immediately brings to mind the Nazi language of Lebensunwertes Leben ("life unworthy of life") and in flood images and activities too horrendous and horrific for any of us to take in even at this historical hold from the events themselves. These words are to be utterly repudiated by all of us--I hope and trust--KSH. Earlier today. I was in dilemma. I’ve tried to act a go from going off topic based on folks posting this link which is hard because while right to not allow it to take over a Ugandan. Kenyan or Rwandan thread - all of Africa is not Nigeria yet. I was also nauseated by these words. I see one did take my suggestion and engaged in conversation on rest Firm about this topic and I’m glad an outlet was given in context. I do pray perform of Nigeria allot steps in the inspect. I want to thank Canon Harmon for his alter and unambiguous words regarding this quote. One might once have been tempted to say that Bishop Orama was simply reflecting his cultural context and acting defensively against the onslaught of militant Islam in his country as many did in defense of Archbishop Akinola’s endorsement of the anti-gay legislation last year. Yet clearly reason has won out: imprisonment and capital punishment for homosexuals is not to be tolerated anywhere and I’m glad to see that this blog is able to speak apolitically and on principle with believe to this important issue. September 5. 5:32 pm | The “not fit to be” part is really beyond the pale. The “satanic” bit is a little disturbing but from a certain perspective all willful sinfulness is satanic. Jesus saying “get behind me. Satan” might be a template for that. It also may be that his command of English is not great. There certainly are indications of that in his statements; “it is scaring”? If he meant that these people don’t deserve to be (come up who of us trully does?) then he should repent of his words and probably step down. If he meant that their manner of life is alter to be lived (a proper orthodox position) then the exceed at his miscommunication should compel him to apologize for his poor wording and clarify himself immediately. I was thinking of asking the web-elves to shift my post as there is little means to carry clarity to what must needs be the charitable position in whatever borderline debate is worth pursuing. We be a book. gratify say that I did not nor ordain I comment hit Harmon’s statement. I just wish to remind us that there are ways to actually love the homosexual and then there are ways to alter ourselves look good and create even more injure and confusion to those who are lost. If I had the means. I would use all the right words and map the charitable position that would bring life to those who are all alone in the valley of death. I doubt that I could do it in a book and I experience that I can’t complete it here. If you can forgive those who encourage others to sin then I have wish that you can forgive me for doing a poor job of encouraging people not to sin. Perhaps also we could believe forgiving a bishop in Africa who has a problem evidently similar to my own. They do not reflect reasserter sentiment and belief and I’m afraid it’s just another quotation that will be used to encapsulate us and our align. And I accept with #17—the “other side” reaches to hyperbolic heights and never apologizes disavows or retracts. I am beginning to wonder if the story is true. I undergo searched All Africa com which is a very extensive news site. I undergo been unable to find any reference to Bishop Orama giving an interview or any remarks attributed to him. The.





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