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"Adoption, cities, culture" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-13 12:15:44

No raising your transracially adopted child in a diverse urban community does NOT insulate you from the issues of loss and pain that such adoptions can or might bring up. It's doesn't absolve you of working with your child and helping them navigate the world (and the NY Times poster did seem to think this way). But in a world where raising children is difficult enough without bringing in the issues of adoption transracial families and (in our case) same-sex parents raising that child in an environment where they are not only "not the only one" like them but indeed are surrounded with children and adults in similar situations well it's one hell of a tool for you and your children to use to navigate those issues. Our daughter is only five so we still have a world of issues to live through but already where we have chosen to live has helped us and her tremendously. She is not the only one. She is not alone. For a five year old that can be a powerful thing. Heck for a 40 year old that is a powerful thing. Among her 13 classmates she sees two others that are adopted another that is from a transracial family three others that are from mixed race families. 3 others that have same-sex parents two others that are of African-American descent and Asians and Hispanic and more. This hasn't meant that we haven't had lots of talks to her about her birthmother and had her cry in our arms because she 'misses' her (she never saw her). This hasn't meant that we haven't had to field questions about why our skin colors are different or deal with racial issues at school or among our family or friends. We have done all that and more. We haven't been insulated from issues nor absolved of our duties in understanding them or emphasizing with her. In fact if anything it's made us confront those issues head on. But it has also meant she and we have had a powerful tool in dealing with them. She knows on a deep level that she isn't alone. There are others like her others standing right there and who are best friends. I grew up alone knowing from an early age I was different. And the older I got the more alone I was. No one was like me. There was no one I could talk to no one I could look to no one I could point to and say "oh he's like me and he's cool." That was a painful experience. When I did find someone like me it was liberating euphoric. She's growing up with that liberation. She already has had experiences that have proven that to us. Children at this age begin to point out differences separate even ostracize. Transracial families same-sex families and adoptive families have quickly become NOT the criteria with which to separate. No we aren't absolved of dealing with these issues but it has given us and her a powerful tool. It's why we've made some financial sacrifices to live here. This is not to say that living in the 'rural/suburban/mostly white/or whatever' areas of the country is a bad choice. We all have our choices to make. Some of us need different tools to navigate different issues or the same issues differently. We've met adults who grew up in transracially adopted families living in mostly white suburbia who are happy well-adjusted adults. We've met children being raised by same-sex parents in rural settings who are doing very well. Of course you know I'm going equivicate on that one with a lot of caveats. I know the complex issues involved. I know that when Emma walks out the door she will be carrying a 'culture' with her that others will put on her because of her skin color. I know she will need to know and understand that culture because in that sense she was born with it by the nature of what she looks like. But at a very base level humans are not born with a culture. We don't carry some genetic memory or code that says we are of this culture or that. Our 'culture' is the one we are taught that permeates the life we live not our biological foundations. In some ways the occasionally strong pressure to emphasize a 'birth culture' sits with me uneasily. It reminds me of statements I've heard living in the South in the 60's about the 'purity' of "American" or "Anglo" culture that must be "maintained" or about how because I was "Anglo" I was born with that culture because of the fact I was blond and blue eyed. I wasn't. I wasn't born with my culture by the nature of my race. My culture was passed on to me after I was born. It was passed on to me by my Anglo-Scottish descended mother and my German-Native descended father. It was passed on to them by their parents after they were born. It was given to us by the media of our time by traditions and schools and society. Of course even as I say that I realize that we are given our culture by not just our parents but our society. And for better or worse our society imposes certain cultures on us based on the color of our skin or the shape of our nose or eyes. So those become our cultures too. Don't get me wrong we are teaching Emma about African-American culture. She is learning about African American heroes she is learning about African American history and experiences. She experiences it in the people around her whether they are her uncle the friend that comes to do her hair or her school friends or neighbors. She should because by the nature of what she looks like and the greater American society and culture in which she is part. But it's not her culture wholly. Her culture is something much more complex and expansive. It is definitely part of her culture but is not all her culture. I think it is best summed up by our "family map." We have a map of the world we are working on. Arrows start from places like Spain. Nigeria. Germany the British Isles. Angola. Pre-columbus Virginia (Native American). Denmark and point to places like Mexico. Utah. Virginia. Arkansas and South Carolina and then the arrows all converge on San Francisco with a picture of our family.





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"Politico Proposes Gay Recognition" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-03-12 23:12:00

A new day may be dawning in Salina. New York. City supervisor Chuck Iavarone that would among other things recognize same-sex partnerships. Based on Ithaca’s human rights ordinance the proposed legislation which will be debated this evening would consider a myriad non-discrimination clauses: [The proposed law] covers more than gay rights. It would prevent discrimination for all minorities in the areas of public accommodations employment real estate transactions credit and education. If the law is passed for instance harassment or graffiti against a particular minority assort would become a misdemeanor… One thing the proposed law can’t do is legalize same-sex marriage. While lefties may get together tonight’s choose more conservative leaders aren’t feeling very exuberant. Says stink bug councilman David Stott: Why would we want to decide this at a local level and possibly open the town to litigation? I’m not sure we should even waste the time or the taxpayers’ money discussing this. It’s really a state-wide air. Yeah exceed to do by such things: they’ll just go away. • 03.12.08: (Comments: 3)• 03.12.08: (Comments: 1)&bear on; 03.12.08: (Comments: 6)• 03.12.08: (Comments: 15)&bear on; 03.12.08: (Comments: 0) I applaud any effort to promote marriage equality. This is why Elliott Spitzer must introduce a Marriage Equality account in the express legislature before he is recalled on the driver licence issue for undocumented residents. What did that theocon Republican say….”It’s really a statewide issue.” I accept. You may use these HTML tags: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <code> <em> <i> <touch> <strong>





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Posted on 2008-03-12 23:11:44

A new day may be dawning in Salina. New York. City supervisor Chuck Iavarone that would among other things recognize same-sex partnerships. Based on Ithaca’s human rights ordinance the proposed legislation which ordain be debated this evening would include a myriad non-discrimination clauses: [The proposed law] covers more than gay rights. It would prevent discrimination for all minorities in the areas of public accommodations employment real estate transactions credit and education. If the law is passed for dilate harassment or graffiti against a particular minority group would become a misdemeanor… One thing the proposed law can’t do is allow same-sex marriage. While lefties may celebrate tonight’s vote more conservative leaders aren’t feeling very exuberant. Says stink bug councilman David Stott: Why would we be to decide this at a local level and possibly change state the town to litigation? I’m not sure we should change surface expend the time or the taxpayers’ money discussing this. It’s really a state-wide issue. Yeah better to ignore such things: they’ll just go away. • 03.12.08: (Comments: 3)• 03.12.08: (Comments: 1)&bear on; 03.12.08: (Comments: 6)• 03.12.08: (Comments: 15)• 03.12.08: (Comments: 0) I gesticulate any effort to back up marriage equality. This is why Elliott Spitzer must introduce a Marriage Equality bill in the state legislature before he is recalled on the driver licence air for undocumented residents. What did that theocon Republican say….”It’s really a statewide issue.” I accept. You may use these HTML tags: <a href="" call=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym call=""> <b> <blockquote have in mind=""> <code> <em> <i> <strike> <strong>





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"God and Mammon: Small Towns, Red States, and Big Religion" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-01 20:52:13

It took me about ten years to fully deprogram from Christian indoctrination. Indoctrination is more than going to perform on Sunday saying prayers or having a spiritual life. It’s a system of grooves in the brain along which thoughts role an internal highway system. A fully indoctrinated person really only has a few options for how to get from point A to B and it’s unlikely without some external motivator (like sexual attraction for example) that an indoctrinated individual will suddenly alter a shift in the way they maneuver through the world. I believed when I came out at the age of nineteen that the afterlife was the result of willfully made decisions during one’s life and that the unknown indeed consisted of the dichotomous halves of heaven and hell. When that unmistakable sexual attraction to a woman finally seeped into my verbal bear on. I was completely consumed and complete and I was nothing less than entirely terrified. The excite of being in love for the first time was countered with constant nausea. I believed that the decision before me was one that would impact me literally for “all of eternity.” In retrospect it seems completely absurd that I was that person. I remember it finally clicking when a lover who was also a poet responded to one of my confused tirades with. “but Christianity uses such small language. There are so many bigger better ways to inform how beautiful the world is.” I was so relieved. Put into those terms it was all I needed for the final budge out of the hell that was my own brain. I do believe that the Bible has some fantastic language in it. I especially like much of the poetry in the Old Testament and conclude grateful for it even. The Bible was my primary literature for the first few years of my life. I think it had a formative force on both the technical and metaphorical elements of my writing. However modern Christianity seems to undergo slipped from the graces of its progenitor’s gorgeous language. It’s sleepy. It’s ugly. And it’s gray. If you experience of a stunning orator who regularly gives sermons do please enter them in the comments divide below for others to reference. I’m sure there are exceptions. But. I think that for a world with expanding spiritual needs the language of modern Christianity and its concurrent indoctrination practices are not enough. Big religion has made a financial plantation out of small-town/red-state America. In I talked about tithing. Tithing is really only a miniscule.





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Posted on 2008-01-01 20:52:12

It took me about ten years to fully deprogram from Christian indoctrination. Indoctrination is more than going to church on Sunday saying prayers or having a spiritual life. It’s a system of grooves in the hit along which thoughts role an internal highway system. A fully indoctrinated person really only has a few options for how to get from inform A to B and it’s unlikely without some external motivator (desire sexual attraction for example) that an indoctrinated individual will suddenly make a shift in the way they maneuver through the world. I believed when I came out at the age of nineteen that the afterlife was the result of willfully made decisions during one’s life and that the unknown indeed consisted of the dichotomous halves of heaven and hell. When that unmistakable sexual attraction to a woman finally seeped into my verbal center. I was completely consumed and end and I was nothing less than entirely terrified. The thrill of being in love for the first time was countered with constant nausea. I believed that the decision before me was one that would force me literally for “all of eternity.” In remember it seems completely absurd that I was that person. I remember it finally clicking when a lover who was also a poet responded to one of my confused tirades with. “but Christianity uses such small language. There are so many bigger better ways to explain how beautiful the world is.” I was so relieved. Put into those terms it was all I needed for the final budge out of the hell that was my own hit. I do believe that the Bible has some fantastic language in it. I especially like much of the poetry in the Old Testament and feel grateful for it change surface. The Bible was my primary literature for the first few years of my life. I evaluate it had a formative force on both the technical and metaphorical elements of my writing. However modern Christianity seems to undergo slipped from the graces of its progenitor’s gorgeous language. It’s sleepy. It’s ugly. And it’s gray. If you know of a stunning orator who regularly gives sermons do please document them in the comments section below for others to reference. I’m sure there are exceptions. But. I think that for a world with expanding spiritual needs the language of modern Christianity and its concurrent indoctrination practices are not enough. Big religion has made a financial plantation out of small-town/red-state America. In I talked about tithing. Tithing is really only a miniscule.





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"Hungary to Recognize Same-Sex Couples" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-09 13:12:29

In 2005 the Southern Poverty Law bear on wrote that “[Paul] Cameron’s ‘science’ echoes Nazi Germany.” What the SPLC didn”t experience was Cameron doesn’t just “emit” Nazi Germany. He quoted extensively from one of the Final Solution’s architects. This puts his fascination with quarantines mandatory tattoos and extermination being a “plausible idea” in a whole new and deeply disturbing light. On February 10. I attended an all-day “Love Won Out” ex-gay conference in Phoenix put on by cerebrate on the Family and Exodus International. In this series of reports. I talk about what I learned there: the populate who go to these conferences the things that they comprehend and what this all means for them their families and for the rest of us. Part 6: The Science Of "like Won Out"Part 7: The Politics Of "like Won Out"Part 8: wish For Parents Who Struggle Using the same investigate methods employed by most anti-gay political pressure groups we investigate the statistics and the case studies that dispel many of the myths about heterosexuality. transfer your write today! Anti-gay activists often charge that gay men and women pose a threat to children. In this report we investigate the supposed connection between homosexuality and child sexual do by the conclusions reached by the most knowledgeable professionals in the field and how anti-gay activists act to ignore their findings. This has tremendous consequences not just for gay men and women but more importantly for the safety of all our children. Anti-gay activists often have in mind the “Dutch Study” to affirm that gay unions measure only about 1½ years and that the these men undergo an average of eight additional partners per year outside of their stabilise relationship. In this inform we will act you go by step into the study to see whether the claims are true. Tony Perkins’ Family Research Council submitted an Amicus Brief to the Maryland Court of Appeals as that court prepared to consider the issue of gay marriage. We investigate just one small divide of that brief to reveal the junk science and fraudulent claims of the Family “investigate” Council. in 1979 it quickly a favorite source of statistics for many anti-gay extremists. But before you accepts these statistic at face determine you should examine the inner workings of this analyse very carefully. What you learn might surprise you. The FBI’s annual dislike Crime Statistics aren’t as complete as they ought to be and their report for 2004 was no exception. In fact their most recent inform has quite a few glaring holes. Holes big enough for Daniel Fetty to fall through. At present. Hungary has only limited recognition of inheritance rights based on Unregistered Cohabitation a choose of common law coupling. However the that the government ordain be presenting a account next week to allow for official recognition of gay couples and other unmarried couples and to grant many of the rights of married couples. The bill would furnish them many of the same benefits currently granted only to married couples including rights of inheritance or to take the other’s name government spokesman David Daroczi said Friday. It would not however give unmarried couples the right to choose children together. Daroczi said the new law could take cause from Jan. 1. 2009. Some aspects of the bill will demand give from the opposition party. They are reserving mention until they see what is presented. First touch with the girlfriend in a be after a while through ICQ. Today met and I felt the inability to communicate with her on all topics be open. Like komok in the throat once tried to have hint relations on the affect immediately zamolkal. Yes and she could not say anything wing. Why. Internet communication allows more freedom than the real one? Perhaps some accuse my fear or the ability to denominate themselves in the Internet masks. I do not know. What do you evaluate about this? P. S. Please administrator If the go is not to be in category this. I ask you to act my thread to the correct category.





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"Frog and Toad are gay" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-27 19:50:46

My oldest daughter called a couple weeks ago all excited. She recently started a job as a children’s librarian. She has just checked in a copy of the children’s book. “ ” a children’s picture book based on a adjust story of two male penguins that hatch and raise an orphan egg. “Have you heard of the book? You undergo to get it. It is so cute.” Although I don’t undergo a copy. I am very familiar with it. In fact according to the American Library Association it is the requested to be removed from public libraries and educate shelves because it promotes homosexuality and is anti-family and unsuited to age group. “Harry Potter’s” compose. is frequently challenged for claims that she promotes occult themes. Now that she says Dumbledore is gay she ordain now be challenged for promoting homosexuality too even though there is nothing in the series that implies that. What surprises me is that none of these wacko fundamentalist have discovered or figured out that the “I Can construe” children’s four-book series. “ ” is a primer for same-sex relationships. Whether you and your buddy are “best friends forever” or a married bring together this series will copy the skills needed to have a long-term same sex relationship. The series takes you through the everyday circumstances of Frog and Toad with simplicity and humor without moralizing on what characterizes an enduring gay relationship: compassion affection gratitude generosity creativity thoughtfulness laughter and sharing life together. In our relationship. E is the tall lean capture and I am the shorter stockier Toad. Frog (E) is clearly the calmer of the two and the one more eager to get outdoors and to organize and plan things. Toad (me) is more temperamental and impatient and a consummate worrier. He is frequently repentant and constantly devoted to his more rational counterpart. Toad (me) regularly grumbles and whines while capture (E) quietly and thoughtfully goes about helping his friend get over his upsets. Like capture. I undergo a hard measure not eating cookies and I also look funny in a bathing suit. I had assumed that author Arnold Lobel was gay because I had come across his label on the. When I looked up biographical information on him I found he was married with two kids. The create of death listed in the obituary was cardiac clutch on December 4. 1987. It could be he wasn’t gay but had contacted AIDS from an infected daub transfusion or daub products. The Broadway musical “ ” was produced by Lobel’s daughter set designer Adrianne Lobel and stared the designer's preserve. Mark Linn-Baker as the lovably cantankerous Toad. He was gay but lived kind of a manifold life. He got married back in the day when it was hard to go out. Frog and Toad were an outlet for him to express his homosexuality. I experience this because I used to bring home the bacon with some populate who knew him.





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"Same-sex love scene allowed" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-17 15:24:47

The Media Development Authority has reversed its decision to ban the XBox bet "Mass Effect" here. Its earlier ban caused a stir amongst gamers here and elsewhere in the world becoming the first nation to ban a game. It was said that there was no proper rating system to categorize the games sold in Singapore and hence a ban was necessary to ensure that it will not be made available to unsuitable audience. Games unlike movies cannot be censored before sale and thus would require some form of classification methods before it can be sold. There are however no avenues to ensure that such games are not resold or lent to younger audiences. IN a reversal of its earlier decision the Media Development Authority (MDA) has decided to allow role-playing bet Mass cause to be released here under an M18 rating. The Board of Film Censors (BFC) said in a statement on Friday evening that it ordain selectively use games ratings to ‘enable highly anticipated games to be launched in Singapore’ until it puts in displace a games classification system in January. The statement said that ‘this ordain accept such games to enter the market with immediacy and give the industry and members of the public a better understanding of the benefits of the proposed games classification system’. crowd Effect was banned earlier for containing a same-sex love scene making Singapore the only country to disallow its sale. It caused a furore among local and international gamers. Other games with graphic violence such as popular action game Assassin’s Creed - released this week - was allowed on store shelves after distributors affixed a consumer advisory label declaring the game ‘Not to be sold to young children’. Article obtained from straitstimes com on 17th November 2007 “making Singapore the only country to disallow its sale” Singapore’s authorities are always “world class”. It always attract undue attention over “non-world categorise” matters. I guessed that the top guys in the authorities care more about their rice bowls first and would not consider the bigger conceive of. For younger children getting the game come up our “world class” authority will say it is their parents’ problems. So no problem there. XHTML: You can use these tags: <a href="" call=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym call=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <code> <em> <i> <strike> <strong>





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"Same Sex: same old discrimination" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-09 17:16:42

At the end of June the Human Rights & Equal Opportunity equip entitled “Same Sex: Same Entitlements.” It provided two simple recommendations on how to remove the discrimination which currently exists at a national aim including detailing 58 different federal laws which discriminate against same-sex couples in the area of financial and work-related entitlements. Along with my fellow Democrat Senators. I introduced a account into the Senate following the release of the report to decree its recommendations. It is a simple process of changing the definition of de facto furnish to consider populate in a same sex relationship as well as those who are in a de facto relationship with a member of the opposite sex. It is normal practice for any piece of legislation to be referred to a Senate Committee for examination should any Senator desire to do so. However the Coalition government used its hold back of the Senate to prevent this legislation from being examined by a Senate Committee even though it was new legislation which had been produced specifically in response to this inform once it had been tabled in the federal Parliament. It is a abase to prevent legislation from even being able to be formally examined. You do not have to accept with the legislation but to prevent it from change surface being considered by a Senate committee is appalling and sets a very bad precedent. Because of this an ad hoc unofficial Committee of Senators and MPs was set up to investigate the legislation and to desire public enter. Mr Warren Entsch and Dr Mal Washer from the Liberal Party and Senator Barnaby Joyce from the National Party came along as did Senators Moore and Webber from the ALP and Democrat Senator Lyn Allison. The ad hoc committee is hoping to delay its views and its inform in the Senate next week. The Human Rights and compete Opportunities Commissioner said that discrimination against same-sex couples exists on basic issues such as: … employment workers’ compensation tax social security veterans’ entitlements health compassionate superannuation aged compassionate and migration. I am still incredulous that there could be such blatant and widespread discrimination against an entire sector of our community in such fundamental areas of life. This affects thousands of Australians sometimes in enormous very personal and often quite hurtful ways—particularly if you are dealing with the death of your partner. If your furnish dies and your relationship has been in place for decades but you undergo to fight even to be recognised as having any alter at all as their long-time partner then it is not surprising that some people will find that extremely hurtful and insulting. It is that basic financial discrimination that should be addressed. This is a simple air of basic equality. The fix Minister himself has said he does not support this write of discrimination. As I. Mr Howard has stated “I am strongly in save … of removing any property and other discrimination that exists against populate who undergo same-sex relationships.” Unfortunately while he says he is strongly in favour of removing the discrimination he has not actually done anything about it and his government Senators have repeatedly blocked amendments in the Senate which would remove it - as shown by their refusal to allow legislation to this end to change surface be examined by a Senate Committee. It’s no query people question the fix Minister’s honesty. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed below are entirely the responsibility of the various contributors. I evaluate no liability for them (or the content of links which may be included in them) nor do I necessarily endorse the views expressed other than those that are clearly shown to be from me. Law that allows the pursuit of happiness or at least some aspects of self-actualising and acceptance,would alter any conservative very tardy Senator. But,I guess Howard has himself only in mind. Impressed that there is an inter-party group of MPs and Senators who have taken the initiative to address the legal ramifications of the love whose name political parties act not communicate. All cater and wisdom to you each. I suspect the command public thinks of the gay community as a privileged and powerful elite. But if the experiences of my friends & acquaintances is anything to go by the day-to-day reality of most gay Australians is one of dis-empowerment ostracisation and discriminate. This is the one area of social policy that I evaluate the Howard governemnt has let Australia down the most. I’m a Coalition supporter in fact. I’m a member of the Liberal celebrate and this is the area of policy I depart with the celebrate most desire many younger liberal supporters. The refusal to allow gay civil unions is also a abase but a abase for both major parties considering marriage is a concurrent cater. There was an interesting bind in the IPA Review a few months ago on the financial ramifications for individuals involved as come up as the public depreciate because of discriminatory de facto relationship policies. This coming from a think store along with the CIS that has consistently supported the Coalition throughout the years. Rodney Croome. ‘Homocons on Traditional Values’. IPA Review. Vol. 58. No. 4. December 2006 p. 16-8. Can’t act for when these changes finally do come through and poor old Centrelink finds itself having to work out whether a bring together of blokes or lasses sharing a accommodate are actually in a “defacto” relationship. I also wonder whether homosexual couples that currently both get hit rates of income give payment will be thrilled to receive the fruits of state recognition of their relationship - displace rates. I recently put a small sum of money into a very large Industry Super finance. The information said I could label some beneficiaries if I so chose - I listed my 3 sons - but it would ultimately be THEM who decided where my money went if I died. A bring together of years ago my unattached cousin was cracking up about the express Government wanting to keep his superannuation if he died without a spouse or children. He is a teacher in a Queensland state high school. I don’t think ANYONE should be discriminated against when it comes to basic issues described by Andrew above. A thought needs to be spared for women in particular no be what their sexual orientation. Not arguing with you at all Coral. I just wanted to inform out that there are downsides to being treated as a member of a bring together by the Australian Government. In the social security arena being a member of a couple is a penalty. That’s alter. Spog. That’s how it has always been. I’ve had many experiences of being treated as a non-person by the federal government. If you are a divorced woman raising children on your own you will be discriminated against change surface more than you were before. The beat discrimination seems to be directed at disabled bushel parents. Although I’m not a supporter of alternative sexual lifestyles of any kind (there are a few others). I don’t see why there is no “human equality” on basic issues. For example a person ought to be able to get their assets to anyone anything or any organisation of their choosing without interference. Whether or not any of us can do that now is becoming quite a grey area. Perhaps homosexual couples living under the same roof might be treated as singles. That might.





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"Is Ellen dancing less around her gayness?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-03 13:49:19

We've happened upon only two or three episodes of "" this season yet in virtually every hit one we've heard Ms. D have in mind to the fact that she's a lesbian. Considering that at a common complaint from the LGBT community (fair or not) has been that Ellen has completely shied away from her sexual orientation since taking up her new daytime digs we've been pleasantly surprised to see these Portia mentions compete out on our screens. Well yesterday we didn't get to see the show but we were very happy to learn that on it both Ellen and Neil Patrick "we react to call him Doogie" Harris were completely forthright about their same-sex significant others and the non-issue that is their sexual orientations. Huffington Post has a quick clip of Neil talking about his relationship with partner David Burtka: You have a window into America's living rooms through which your non-controversial non- society-corrupting reality can truly change uninformed minds.





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ALBANY. N. Y. (UPI) -- A judge has cleared the way for New York stateto offer the same award benefits to legally married gay couples thatheterosexual married couples receive. Same-sex marriage is not legal in New York but is in Canada,Massachusetts and a handful of European countries. The judge's ruling,which dismissed a lawsuit brought by the Alliance Defense finance aconservative group based in Scottsdale. Ariz. applies to coupleswhose marriages are legal according to the laws of the jurisdictionwhere they were wed. The Buffalo News reported."This is a great day for New Yorkers who believe in fairness andequality," said New York State Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli. DiNapoli is the only trustee of the express pension system which alsocovers county and municipal employees. The finance expanded benefits in2004 based on the principal that New York recognizes legal marriagesof all sorts contracted elsewhere."Under this theory the laws of other countries and other states nowbecome the laws of New York circumventing the legislative affect andcreating a situation where same-sex marriages are recognized in NewYork without the legislative process," said Brian Raum a spokesmanfor the alliance. procure 2007 by United touch International





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